Liverpool FC Forum

[Benny The Noon]

The point here is Rafa never should have gone in the 1st place hence the push to get him back. All the clowns who jumped on that bandwagon must have realised by now what a colossal mistake that was so I don't see anything wrong with wanting him back.

This isn't the 1st time fans have taken to social media to get a point across so I don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist. I assume those moaning are the ones who don't want him back.

I would like Rafa back and I am moaning about how pathetic that website is. I was one of his biggest fans and was disgusted by what some said on here

Fans using social media to highlight justice campaigns is great - using it to make the fanbase look like laughing stocks.

[Thommo's perm]

Liverpool FC is a business run by businessmen - supporters are customers now - they either pay for the product if they like it or they don't - that is their choice - that is how other clubs get run.

It is a harsh reality - fans setting up websites to send e mails to the owners ?! Embaressing and pathetic and make us look tools

What if the fans all disagreed on something ?! Who do you listen too ?

Complain all you want , but at the end of the day we either accept what is going on or we go elsewhere.

If you want to have a say in running a club then join Ebbsfleet or AFC Liverpool. 

People still live in a fantasy where it's the "supporters" club - it isn't and it never will be.

Although you have a point it is only made stronger by your willingness to be dry-bum fu'cked by anyone who buys the most shares.
It is OUR club, they are merely the current custodians. That is a FACT. Yes football is a business, but not in the same way as other businesses are run. We are customers because we pay for a product but Im sure you have the intelligence to comprehend that being a real supporter is far more than buying a loaf from a shop or a meal from a restaurant. If that was the case we would stop going the game altogether such was the disgraceful quality of the dish that was served to us last season, according to some.
I am not condoning websites to email the owners, or tweeting or bombarding anyone. I am talking about a civilised group of people who will discuss issues with FSG in a proper manner. Because all fans dont agree on something it doesnt mean those who want to have an input shouldnt or cant. I understand your apathy because I go the match with lads who say "I only come to watch the game. Im not interested in all that politics sh'it." Fair play to them. Many go to escape the sh'it in their lives, not to be embroiled in another crisis. But those who wish to be involved should be allowed to without being slagged off for showing an interest. While I am not asking for people to encourage participation, I do think they should not discourage it.
Most businesses do customer surveys. Look on it like that if it pleases you

[Benny The Noon]

Liverpool FC is a business run by businessmen - supporters are customers now - they either pay for the product if they like it or they don't - that is their choice - that is how other clubs get run.

It is a harsh reality - fans setting up websites to send e mails to the owners ?! Embaressing and pathetic and make us look tools

What if the fans all disagreed on something ?! Who do you listen too ?

Complain all you want , but at the end of the day we either accept what is going on or we go elsewhere.

If you want to have a say in running a club then join Ebbsfleet or AFC Liverpool. 

People still live in a fantasy where it's the "supporters" club - it isn't and it never will be.

Although you have a point it is only made stronger by your willingness to be dry-bum fu'cked by anyone who buys the most shares.
It is OUR club, they are merely the current custodians. That is a FACT.
Yes football is a business, but not in the same way as other businesses are run. We are customers because we pay for a product but Im sure you have the intelligence to comprehend that being a real supporter is far more than buying a loaf from a shop or a meal from a restaurant. If that was the case we would stop going the game altogether such was the disgraceful quality of the dish that was served to us last season, according to some.
I am not condoning websites to email the owners, or tweeting or bombarding anyone. I am talking about a civilised group of people who will discuss issues with FSG in a proper manner. Because all fans dont agree on something it doesnt mean those who want to have an input shouldnt or cant. I understand your apathy because I go the match with lads who say "I only come to watch the game. Im not interested in all that politics sh'it." Fair play to them. Many go to escape the sh'it in their lives, not to be embroiled in another crisis. But those who wish to be involved should be allowed to without being slagged off for showing an interest. While I am not asking for people to encourage participation, I do think they should not discourage it.
Most businesses do customer surveys. Look on it like that if it pleases you

It is their club - they own it - that is FACT - stating anything else is living in some 80's dream world when the world was lovely in LFC land

Fan can show an interest - i have no problems with that and approach it with a sensible manner - but dont expect that anyone deserves to have a say or it is their right to have a say to the owners - you can talk about it all day long on a forum and speak to fellow fans and air your frustrations etc.

The owners will listen to any fans they deem fit to listen too. There is already in place a fans group where they have spoken to members of the club already - the club picked those members and its those people the club will speak to directly. But they do that out of the goodness of their heart as opposed to any demands from any fan.

[Thommo's perm]

Liverpool FC is a business run by businessmen - supporters are customers now - they either pay for the product if they like it or they don't - that is their choice - that is how other clubs get run.

It is a harsh reality - fans setting up websites to send e mails to the owners ?! Embaressing and pathetic and make us look tools

What if the fans all disagreed on something ?! Who do you listen too ?

Complain all you want , but at the end of the day we either accept what is going on or we go elsewhere.

If you want to have a say in running a club then join Ebbsfleet or AFC Liverpool. 

People still live in a fantasy where it's the "supporters" club - it isn't and it never will be.

Although you have a point it is only made stronger by your willingness to be dry-bum fu'cked by anyone who buys the most shares.
It is OUR club, they are merely the current custodians. That is a FACT.
Yes football is a business, but not in the same way as other businesses are run. We are customers because we pay for a product but Im sure you have the intelligence to comprehend that being a real supporter is far more than buying a loaf from a shop or a meal from a restaurant. If that was the case we would stop going the game altogether such was the disgraceful quality of the dish that was served to us last season, according to some.
I am not condoning websites to email the owners, or tweeting or bombarding anyone. I am talking about a civilised group of people who will discuss issues with FSG in a proper manner. Because all fans dont agree on something it doesnt mean those who want to have an input shouldnt or cant. I understand your apathy because I go the match with lads who say "I only come to watch the game. Im not interested in all that politics sh'it." Fair play to them. Many go to escape the sh'it in their lives, not to be embroiled in another crisis. But those who wish to be involved should be allowed to without being slagged off for showing an interest. While I am not asking for people to encourage participation, I do think they should not discourage it.
Most businesses do customer surveys. Look on it like that if it pleases you

It is their club - they own it - that is FACT - stating anything else is living in some 80's dream world when the world was lovely in LFC land

Fan can show an interest - i have no problems with that and approach it with a sensible manner - but dont expect that anyone deserves to have a say or it is their right to have a say to the owners - you can talk about it all day long on a forum and speak to fellow fans and air your frustrations etc.

The owners will listen to any fans they deem fit to listen too. There is already in place a fans group where they have spoken to members of the club already - the club picked those members and its those people the club will speak to directly. But they do that out of the goodness of their heart as opposed to any demands from any fan.

You are deliberately missing the point
The fans played a major part in the downfall of the other two cu'nts. Supporters have a big part to play if they want to, but moaning very rarely gets results. The thing is the more that people are told they have no influence or power, the more they believe it. We have it in politics right now where people are disillusioned and are too apathetic to even get off their ar'se to vote. A properly organised group of football supporters saying and doing the right things can get results. Whether you approve or not is irrelevent. It has been done and can be done again. It depends on the will of the supporters more than what the owners want, and while you are promoting the owners and saying things will never change people will probably believe you.

[Benny The Noon]

What did the fans do to make FSG buy out the debt ?

The fans at the ground showed how much support they had for Kenny by singing his name and cheering him - what did the owners do ?

[Thommo's perm]

What did the fans do to make FSG buy out the debt ?

The fans at the ground showed how much support they had for Kenny by singing his name and cheering him - what did the owners do ?

What is your point and is it relevent?

[Benny The Noon]

What did the fans do to make FSG buy out the debt ?

The fans at the ground showed how much support they had for Kenny by singing his name and cheering him - what did the owners do ?

What is your point and is it relevent?

You said the fans played a major part in getting rid of the previous owners - I'm asking you to clarify what was the major part they played

[ldhawan]

I sent them a message. If it doesn't go anywhere and is read by nobody then 5 minutes wasted. No biggie. If it does go somewhere and added to hopefully countless others and makes some small difference then worth it all the way. All the people judging it negatively have wasted just as much time posting on this site as I have sending that message so which is a bigger waste of time I ask? Who is the bigger moron? Come on Rafa!!
P.S. I doubt he will come though but I can still hope. My money is on Martinez. Who knows, maybe he can become the next Rafa?

[Thommo's perm]

What did the fans do to make FSG buy out the debt ?

The fans at the ground showed how much support they had for Kenny by singing his name and cheering him - what did the owners do ?

What is your point and is it relevent?

You said the fans played a major part in getting rid of the previous owners - I'm asking you to clarify what was the major part they played

Are you serious? You dont think the pressure from the supporters, the highlighting of what was going on, the media campaign, the protest marches, the online attack. All of this had no effect on the outcome?
What!?

[lakes10]

i was told that talk sport reported today that they (talksport) contacted Rafa to see if he had been asked about taking the job, he had not.

if you heard this did they say if Rafa had even been called by the club?

[Benny The Noon]

I think the effect wasn't a major as stated.

The banks knew what was happening FSG knew exactly what was happening and timed it perfectly when the price was low.

The fans didn't get rid of the owners - RBS along with the help of Broughton , Ayres and Purslow got rid of the owners and FSG stepped in.

Yes the fans protested etc but they didn't force a sale - the bank did just before they were about to put the club into admin.

[burjennio]

i was told that talk sport reported today that they (talksport) contacted Rafa to see if he had been asked about taking the job, he had not.

if you heard this did they say if Rafa had even been called by the club?

Lakes I had TalkSport on all afternoon and heard nothing of this whatsoever.

You know if you take those pills the doctor prescribed those voices in your head go away right?

[Thommo's perm]

i was told that talk sport reported today that they (talksport) contacted Rafa to see if he had been asked about taking the job, he had not.

if you heard this did they say if Rafa had even been called by the club?

I can see why they wouldnt want Rafa
The same reason they didnt want KK. He is a peoples champion and therefore a threat to their power
He is trouble and could challenge them if he was successful
Business is business..

[lakes10]

i was told that talk sport reported today that they (talksport) contacted Rafa to see if he had been asked about taking the job, he had not.

if you heard this did they say if Rafa had even been called by the club?

Lakes I had TalkSport on all afternoon and heard nothing of this whatsoever.

You know if you take those pills the doctor prescribed those voices in your head go away right?

as i said mate i was told it was on there, i did not hear it myself.

[Thommo's perm]

I think the effect wasn't a major as stated.

The banks knew what was happening FSG knew exactly what was happening and timed it perfectly when the price was low.

The fans didn't get rid of the owners - RBS along with the help of Broughton , Ayres and Purslow got rid of the owners and FSG stepped in.

Yes the fans protested etc but they didn't force a sale - the bank did just before they were about to put the club into admin.

You underestimate the power of the "customer" GYBS
Twit and tw@t were soiled goods and the main reason Broughton, Ayres, Purslow etc did what they did is because the supporters demanded it. Yes the banks wanted their money back, but without the supporters FSG wouldnt have bought the club