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Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:47 am
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I think the point is..... IF Hicks and Gillett had said "Barry is outside of our budget" or "we just can't afford to pay that price at this time" ...... that is a finance decision and its perfectly OK for them to make that decision.
To say "we think he is too dear" or "we don't think he is a good investment"....... that is a footballing decision as it involves judgement of the ability of the player, and as such should be made by the manager.
If there is any truth in the Bascombe article, they obviously don't trust the manager as much as whoever has advised them (someone must have!) which can only lead to further problems.
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Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:10 am
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Kharhaz wrote:If there is any truth in the Bascombe article, they obviously don't trust the manager as much as whoever has advised them (someone must have!) which can only lead to further problems.
I dont think there is truth in that article, if there was a grain of it, we wouldnt have keane.
The reason we got Keane was Rafa sold players to get him. With Barry, Rafa hasn't been able to sell the players yet to fund the Barry purchase, so Hicks and Gillett said they would fund the purchase with yet another loan. Now it appears that after further investigation (advice) they no longer believe Barry is worth the asking price. Presumably if Rafa had managed to offload enough players this deal would have gone through as well, before their recent change of heart.
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Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:27 am
by Rush Job
Its going to end up like it is on the continent with the CEO's and director of football doing the signing of players and the manager will just be head coach.
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Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:29 am
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Kharhaz wrote:s@int wrote:Kharhaz wrote:If there is any truth in the Bascombe article, they obviously don't trust the manager as much as whoever has advised them (someone must have!) which can only lead to further problems.
I dont think there is truth in that article, if there was a grain of it, we wouldnt have keane.
The reason we got Keane was Rafa sold players to get him. With Barry, Rafa hasn't been able to sell the players yet to fund the Barry purchase, so Hicks and Gillett said they would fund the purchase with yet another loan. Now it appears that after further investigation (advice) they no longer believe Barry is worth the asking price. Presumably if Rafa had managed to offload enough players this deal would have gone through as well, before their recent change of heart.
I guess it all rests on rafas next signing, as I believe there will be one, and for a high price. The price we paid for keane is even minded, as in as much as people say we paid too much there are equal amounts saying its money well spent. With Barry, it wont be, if we sign him he will be another midfielder, not left back, not left midfielder, but simply another midfielder with option of moving him elsewhere.
We will soon see when the season starts.
Thats the whole point, they arn't saying we can't afford to pay £18million, they are saying Barry is not worth £18million, but player X (Silva?) is! Are they experts on football, international players and their values, do they know more than someone that has been immersed in football for 30years or more ?
If Rafa says we need another midfield player do they know enough about football to say "no we don't," or "get him instead he's better/ better value?"