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Kenny Kan wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

Keris wrote:2. Suicide Bombers.
I don't really think suicide bombers exists because of passages from a book. But I do believe they exists because of war and oppression maybe economically or maybe politically. I don't reckon anyone with a full stomach wants to be a suicide bomber. Does the Quran site 'go to war just because we don't see eye to eye?' no. As a muslim I don't believe that. Hand me a rifle and tell me to do so and I will shoot you myself We are a thinking religion mate, imprints of the influence of Islam can be trance in economy, science and politics, even in astronomy and in the advancement of civilization.

Good answer. I was going to write a similar thing to this. One of the first and most famous documentations of suicide bombings came in WW2 when the Japanese would run into the front lines of US forces and blow themselves up. Circumstances dictate those kinds of actions, not the religion. All the religion does is give them the mental will power to do it, or the balls in other words.

Kamikazes are of a totally different context altogether. They would be shot, their plane would be going down anyway. It's totally different.

Emerald Red wrote:

Kenny Kan wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

Keris wrote:2. Suicide Bombers.
I don't really think suicide bombers exists because of passages from a book. But I do believe they exists because of war and oppression maybe economically or maybe politically. I don't reckon anyone with a full stomach wants to be a suicide bomber. Does the Quran site 'go to war just because we don't see eye to eye?' no. As a muslim I don't believe that. Hand me a rifle and tell me to do so and I will shoot you myself We are a thinking religion mate, imprints of the influence of Islam can be trance in economy, science and politics, even in astronomy and in the advancement of civilization.

Good answer. I was going to write a similar thing to this. One of the first and most famous documentations of suicide bombings came in WW2 when the Japanese would run into the front lines of US forces and blow themselves up. Circumstances dictate those kinds of actions, not the religion. All the religion does is give them the mental will power to do it, or the balls in other words.

Kamikazes are of a totally different context altogether. They would be shot, their plane would be going down anyway. It's totally different.

The principle is the same. Overwhelming odds dictating that the best strategy to inflict maximum damage when outnumbered is to sacrifice yourself and take out as many of the enemy as possible doing so. It's just unfortunate that the so called enemy according to the people blowing themselves up in places like Israel happen to be normal civilians. No one can condone that, but you can at least try to understand why it happens.

Agreed. I think. 

Keris wrote:

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very good question mate, and you got me on that one big time   I don't want to make any excuses or anything the thread was a tongue in a cheek type of comment anyways and I usually have the occasional drink from time to time (only on special occasions, god forgive me for it). However, I felt I needed to do the Umra at least to reconnect with my faith and experience it.

Well, I hope you found everything that you hope for.

My uncle once asked me if there was anything he could doa for me since he was doing his Haj. I asked for number 19. Still waiting though. 

I think your uncle lied to you!

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Kenny Kan wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

Keris wrote:2. Suicide Bombers.
I don't really think suicide bombers exists because of passages from a book. But I do believe they exists because of war and oppression maybe economically or maybe politically. I don't reckon anyone with a full stomach wants to be a suicide bomber. Does the Quran site 'go to war just because we don't see eye to eye?' no. As a muslim I don't believe that. Hand me a rifle and tell me to do so and I will shoot you myself We are a thinking religion mate, imprints of the influence of Islam can be trance in economy, science and politics, even in astronomy and in the advancement of civilization.

Good answer. I was going to write a similar thing to this. One of the first and most famous documentations of suicide bombings came in WW2 when the Japanese would run into the front lines of US forces and blow themselves up. Circumstances dictate those kinds of actions, not the religion. All the religion does is give them the mental will power to do it, or the balls in other words.

Kamikazes are of a totally different context altogether. They would be shot, their plane would be going down anyway. It's totally different.

Kenny Kan wrote:Kamikazes are of a totally different context altogether. They would be shot, their plane would be going down anyway. It's totally different.

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