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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:50 pm
by simic_ie
Agreed, my point of few is that because of the reputation Millwall FC has, the hooligan element from Liverpool travelled down just to cause trouble.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:50 pm
by zarababe
MFC & Proud wrote:
zarababe wrote:MFC ..  your chairman thinks nothing bad was said ... ???

I too heard nothing, only going on what othere people nearer the Away fans have said.

.. so do u think that the trouble could have been caused by the organised element associated with your club.. .. because while LFC fans are not incapable of casuing trouble .. it is ironic it happend at MFC..

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:51 pm
by MFC & Proud
zarababe wrote:
MFC & Proud wrote:
zarababe wrote:MFC ..  your chairman thinks nothing bad was said ... ???

I too heard nothing, only going on what othere people nearer the Away fans have said.

.. so do u think that the trouble could have been caused by the organised element associated with your club.. .. because while LFC fans are not incapable of casuing trouble .. it is ironic it happend at MFC..

??? The only trouble I saw came from the Liverpool end

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:52 pm
by simic_ie
It is possible zara but it is far more likely that it was an organised element from Liverpool

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:52 pm
by MFC & Proud
simic_ie wrote:Agreed, my point of few is that because of the reputation Millwall FC has, the hooligan element from Liverpool travelled down just to cause trouble.

Agreed, but I fail to see how Millwall can be blamed for that.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:55 pm
by taff
Try living opposite the Milleniums stadium  :D

In fairness there wasnt hardly any trouble no more than an usual Saturday in Cardiff although what a tense day  :p

I saw the links on your site to this one so welcome and happy posting the point I have is your lot are wrapped up in aggro. Even on your site theres a NF going to Sunderland game topic with people basically arranging the off. 

No club in the land do not have trouble makers but it does seem a point of pride with your lot

Like Rocky 4 If I can change you can change we can all change  :D

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:56 pm
by simic_ie
The reputation is not completely unwarranted, though it is blown out of proportion. But it is something that MFC is stuck with and it's going to be very hard to get rid of the reputation, and I'm not convinced that a lot of Millwall fans want to get rid of that reputation

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:59 pm
by MFC & Proud
taff wrote:Try living opposite the Milleniums stadium  :D

In fairness there wasnt hardly any trouble no more than an usual Saturday in Cardiff although what a tense day  :p

I saw the links on your site to this one so welcome and happy posting the point I have is your lot are wrapped up in aggro. Even on your site theres a NF going to Sunderland game topic with people basically arranging the off. 

No club in the land do not have trouble makers but it does seem a point of pride with your lot

Like Rocky 4 If I can change you can change we can all change  :D

The Sunderland NF thing is a load of tosh.

Yeah some people are proud of the clubs image, the problem being when do you ever read about trouble at Football matchs these days?  Only when Millwalls involved.  A lot worse goes on up and down the Country week in week out, however it is hardly reported, why because Millwall aggro sells papers.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:00 pm
by MFC & Proud
simic_ie wrote:The reputation is not completely unwarranted, though it is blown out of proportion. But it is something that MFC is stuck with and it's going to be very hard to get rid of the reputation, and I'm not convinced that a lot of Millwall fans want to get rid of that reputation

Agreed

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:25 pm
by Woollyback
Surprised we haven't been inundated by MFC fans this afternoon, returning all the abuse that got hurled their way this morning. There's a link to our site on their's. So far we've only had MFC & Proud as far as I can tell but he's here for some constructive debate

Makes a change from all those bellends from Leeds a few months back   :kungfu:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:29 pm
by stmichael
I heard the Monkey chants to Traore, wasnt there a "kick rasism out of football" banner there aswell??!! ???

I noticed aswell just after the fracas in the crowd, when gobsh*te Muscat grabbed Baros by the throat, Baros pointed to where the problem was in the crowd and then suggested to Muscat to "use his head" and stop the crowd trouble from escalating, that was my interpretation anyway..

Well done Milan, Millwall will always be a fecking disgrace.. its the 00's FFS, isnt it time they shook off this 80's image of "hooliganism is cool" :angry:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:31 pm
by MFC & Proud
Woollyback wrote:Surprised we haven't been inundated by MFC fans this afternoon, returning all the abuse that got hurled their way this morning. There's a link to our site on their's. So far we've only had MFC & Proud as far as I can tell but he's here for some constructive debate

Makes a change from all those bellends from Leeds a few months back   :kungfu:

To be honest with you, I think if the link had been put up this morning you might have had a few more, I think we've moved on from the abuse that was going around this morning.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:33 pm
by MFC & Proud
stmichael wrote:I heard the Monkey chants to Traore, wasnt there a "kick rasism out of football" banner there aswell??!! ???

I noticed aswell just after the fracas in the crowd, when gobsh*te Muscat grabbed Baros by the throat, Baros pointed to where the problem was in the crowd and then suggested to Muscat to "use his head" and stop the crowd trouble from escalating, that was my interpretation anyway..

Well done Milan, Millwall will always be a fecking disgrace.. its the 00's FFS, isnt it time they shook off this 80's image of "hooliganism is cool" :angry:

I heard booing at Traore, booing for his clash with one of our BLACK players.  Yes there was a kick racisim banner, which you fans kindly ripped up.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:05 pm
by Ciggy
F.A. to investigate.

THE Football Association has launched an investigation after fans clashed at Liverpool's game at Millwall's New Den ground last night.

Reds fans ripped up seats and tried to rush the Millwall end after up to 1,000 home supporters chanted: "You should have died at Hillsborough".

Trouble flared shortly after Liverpool went 2-0 ahead in the second half.

Seats were ripped up and Millwall fans shouted "There's only one Boris Johnson", a reference to the Tory MP's comments about the Hillsborough disaster, where 96 people died in 1989, and Liverpool's reaction to the murder of Ken Bigley.

One disabled Liverpool fan, believed to be from London, was injured at the perimeter of the pitch as supporters in the Liverpool end poured forward.

Three Liverpool supporters and one from Millwall were ejected from the ground.

Riot police were called, but no arrests were made.

Liverpool FC spokesman Ian Cotton said: "Of course we will co-operate fully with any inquiry by the FA but in the meantime it would be innapropriate to comment."

A Millwall spokeswoman said: "We will be carrying out an assessment of the damage and looking at the CCTV footage of last night.

"We will only comment after a report has been given to the chief executive."

Former Liverpool skipper Phil Neal, a charity coordinator for the families involved in the Hillsborough tragedy, was cocommentating on the game for Merseyside's Radio City.

He said: "If it was chants about Hillsborough that started the violence, then it was totally unnecessary."

Liverpool Suporters Club chairman Richard Pedder said: "In the 15 years since the Hillsborough disaster I have never heard anything like that.

"It is time for Millwall to stop shirking responsibility for the actions of its supporters and take real action."

The ECHO's Liverpool correspondent Chris Bascombe said: "One minute it was peaceful, the next there was trouble in one of the stands."

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:07 pm
by Ciggy
As I said in another post if Boris Johnson kept his opinions to himself none of this would have happened because alot of fans would be to young to remember heysell or hillsborough.