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How do you get around office politics?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:43 pm
by tubby
I am so :censored: off today. Went for a new job within the same company im at now and only done so as I was told to by someone senior but I found out it went to someone else and it's down to office politics!! Some :censored: bigwig who gave me the no.

:angry:

I was enjoying working here but now my whole perception has changed. How the :censored: do I get around office politics? It's not right.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:55 pm
by dawson99
you can either kiss major a$$ and move up, or stay true and find it harder to move up.

im not bad at my job but i wont do the politics so will never get promoted, no matter how awesome i am

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:59 pm
by account deleted by request
dawson99 wrote:you can either kiss major a$$ and move up, or stay true and find it harder to move up.

im not bad at my job but i wont do the politics so will never get promoted, no matter how awesome i am

It might also help if you did a bit of work now and then Dawson   :D

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:07 pm
by dawson99
s@int wrote:
dawson99 wrote:you can either kiss major a$$ and move up, or stay true and find it harder to move up.

im not bad at my job but i wont do the politics so will never get promoted, no matter how awesome i am

It might also help if you did a bit of work now and then Dawson   :D

touche

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:52 pm
by supersub
bavlondon wrote:I was enjoying working here but now my whole perception has changed. How the :censored: do I get around office politics? It's not right.

Work hard , buy the company and get rid of the deadwood..

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:41 am
by laza
AK-47. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every mother...ker in the room, accept no substitutes.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:42 am
by neil
bavlondon wrote:I am so :censored: off today. Went for a new job within the same company im at now and only done so as I was told to by someone senior but I found out it went to someone else and it's down to office politics!! Some :censored: bigwig who gave me the no.

:angry:

I was enjoying working here but now my whole perception has changed. How the :censored: do I get around office politics? It's not right.

the reaction maybe an indication

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:11 am
by tubby
laza wrote:AK-47. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every mother...ker in the room, accept no substitutes.

Not that im a psycho or anything but that does sound satisfying on some levels  :eyebrow

The thing that gets me is now that I see this figure trying to stand in my way ive lost all motivation to work. Now I know how Dawson feels.  :p

Im still really :censored: off.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:33 pm
by Ben Patrick
How long have you been there Bav mate ?

I have been in my job for about 7 years, took me ages before my face seemed to fit and i got moved up.
Just one of them things in every job where if someone's face fits they get promotions etc.
I went for a promotion i felt i deserved about 3-4 years ago and never got it. I reacted badly and was demotivated for the next year and wasted a year, as our payrise is performance based.
It was stupid of me and held me back at the time.

As i said i have since been promoted and things are good now.

If you liked where you work before this i would say get your head down and play the game mate. If you react badly like i did (and you are not going to move to another company) then it will get you nowhere and prevent you getting a promotion anytime soon.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:21 pm
by tubby
I have been there 2 years mate and have had small pay rises along the way but this was a big step up. The silly thing is the head of dept was the one who told me to go for it in the first place and that they thought I could do it so I applied and got myself in that frame of mind. But later I find out the no came down from someone higher up. So it's like is it even worth hanging around if I have that person potentially blocking me.

I'm off for a few days next week thank :censored: but when I get back I want to feed back to her exactly what I thought of the reasons presented to me for not getting it. The reasons they gave made no sense and were contrived. Basically there has been a reshuffle at work so there were various positions that people were applying for.

Another guy who was going for one of those other roles received feedback on a question he wasn't even asked in his interview. So I get the impression this was all planned and I got a no. Either that or I was also strung alone. In terms of work I know I was the best guy for the job, when it comes to operational queries everyone normally comes to me to advise as I know all areas so well. That's what makes it all the more bitter.

My perception of the company and management has done a 180 and I think I am bordering on depression. I take my work seriously so when things like this happen it's a real kick in the teeth. I have come to a decision to focus my efforts on looking for a new job elsewhere but until I find something suitable ill just grit my teeth and keep doing my thing here. It's driving me nuts though, I spent yesterday evening drafting how I am going to structure my argument to my managers manager next week. And I couldn't sleep all night either, I kept thinking of other things to include.

I'm basically gonna pick their whole their whole argument apart and lay it on the table for them to see what :censored: idiots they have been.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:44 pm
by metalhead
Thats work for you,  and being an employee and all that.

Thats why I prefer being an entrepreneur, risky but you don't have to worry what your boss say because your the boss and you are even more motivated to make success.

However, sometimes it doesn't work out.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:10 pm
by Igor Zidane
metalhead wrote:Thats work for you,  and being an employee and all that.

Thats why I prefer being an entrepreneur, risky but you don't have to worry what your boss say because your the boss and you are even more motivated to make success.

However, sometimes it doesn't work out.

Entrepreneur my ringpiece . More like dole lite  lash .  :D

Only kidding metalhead lad .

Does one need to be rich in the first place to be an entepreneur?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:20 am
by laza
Isnt entrepreneur just a posh way of saying dodgy businessman :D

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:41 am
by Greavesie
all I know from a legal perspective is that you're not supposed to be interviewed by someone who knows you

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:49 pm
by metalhead
Igor Zidane wrote:
metalhead wrote:Thats work for you,  and being an employee and all that.

Thats why I prefer being an entrepreneur, risky but you don't have to worry what your boss say because your the boss and you are even more motivated to make success.

However, sometimes it doesn't work out.

Entrepreneur my ringpiece . More like dole lite  lash .  :D

Only kidding metalhead lad .

Does one need to be rich in the first place to be an entepreneur?

:laugh:

I don't think you need to be rich for that, you just need to have the brains, motivation and luck to make your business a success.


And no, it is not a dodgy business man, just a wacko with big dreams kind of business man :D