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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:44 pm
by stmichael
Milner is completely overrated. The fact that he's still playing for the England u21's at 23 says it all. The Geordies up here couldn't wait to get rid, especially for £12m which was quite frankly ludicrous. We bang on about Kuyt. Well Milner at Newcastle scored 8 GOALS IN 4 YEARS.

Milner, striker converted into a winger. I'm spotting a trend on here today. :D

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:45 pm
by Yooj Bigullz
GYBS wrote:Gotta agree think Milner is better than pennant and would of preferred we did get milner instead of pennant . At the moment in prem think young would be a good shout for right side

I really like what I've seen from Young. I was surprised Villa paid so much though it could turn out to be money very well spent. I shudder to think what valuation O'Neill would place on him right now

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:49 pm
by GYBS
Yooj Bigullz wrote:
GYBS wrote:Gotta agree think Milner is better than pennant and would of preferred we did get milner instead of pennant . At the moment in prem think young would be a good shout for right side

I really like what I've seen from Young. I was surprised Villa paid so much though it could turn out to be money very well spent. I shudder to think what valuation O'Neill would place on him right now

yeah he seems to have progressed well so far . think villa would want 20 mil for him thou

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:52 pm
by Yooj Bigullz
stmichael wrote:Milner is completely overrated. The fact that he's still playing for the England u21's at 23 says it all. The Geordies up here couldn't wait to get rid, especially for £12m which was quite frankly ludicrous. We bang on about Kuyt. Well Milner at Newcastle scored 8 GOALS IN 4 YEARS.

Milner, striker converted into a winger. I'm spotting a trend on here today. :D

In all fairness the Loony Toon Army arent really the most reliable source when it comes to football, are they?

I seem to remember fans protesting against the board, for forcing a manager (with the worst record since Ossie Ardiles) to walk out.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:32 pm
by burjennio
Yooj Bigullz Posted on Sep. 26 2008,12:45
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Quote (GYBS @ Sep. 26 2008,12:40)
Gotta agree think Milner is better than pennant and would of preferred we did get milner instead of pennant . At the moment in prem think young would be a good shout for right side

I really like what I've seen from Young. I was surprised Villa paid so much though it could turn out to be money very well spent. I shudder to think what valuation O'Neill would place on him right now


100% there mate, he looks a great player in the making and his delivery from set plays is DYNAMITE. pundits waffledon about how many goals Villa scored from set pieces and crosses last season well he was the main reason (and I suppose having Mellberg, Carew and Laursen in the box to aim at doesnt do any harm either  :) )

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:27 pm
by Toffeehater
Yooj Bigullz wrote:
GYBS wrote:Gotta agree think Milner is better than pennant and would of preferred we did get milner instead of pennant . At the moment in prem think young would be a good shout for right side

I really like what I've seen from Young. I was surprised Villa paid so much though it could turn out to be money very well spent. I shudder to think what valuation O'Neill would place on him right now

If i'm not wrong MON said that young is worth about 30 million during the transfer window period . What a toss.er

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:24 pm
by Fo Dne
GYBS wrote:
aCe' wrote:
GYBS wrote:this thread is about pennant not kuyt (but kuyt has created more , had more assists and scored more than pennant playing from the right )

i highly doubt that he created more and had more assists...
surely if u put kuyt down the right in a 4-4-2 and pennant down the right in a 4-4-2 Pennant can create dozens more from crosses and cut backs..etc etc...
kuyt might score more not enough to make him a good player or option in that position... if we play voronin down the right in a 4-4-2 he'd score more and create less too... get the picture ?!

kuyt is an absolute joke in that position whether u agree with me on that or not .. forget about kuyt and pennant for a sec.
just let me get one thing straight.. ur trying to tell me that a player who has:
a) good pace
b) good crossing
c) good dribbling

shouldnt play because kuyt who is A HARD WORKER deserves that spot more ? based on what ? and plz dnt bring stats into it !

Its all well and good having good pace and dribbling and crossin , but no point if you dont do it on a consistent enough basis of which is what pennant never was . speedy had great pace could cross and dribble but never did it when it matter. Lost count the amount of times i have seen pennant under hit or over hit a cross missing anyone who is in the box .

Think someone posted it - pennant had 6-8 assists where as kuyt had 10 -13 .

:laugh:

Complete lack of understanding of the game.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:53 pm
by maypaxvobiscum
Fo Dne wrote:
GYBS wrote:
aCe' wrote:
GYBS wrote:this thread is about pennant not kuyt (but kuyt has created more , had more assists and scored more than pennant playing from the right )

i highly doubt that he created more and had more assists...
surely if u put kuyt down the right in a 4-4-2 and pennant down the right in a 4-4-2 Pennant can create dozens more from crosses and cut backs..etc etc...
kuyt might score more not enough to make him a good player or option in that position... if we play voronin down the right in a 4-4-2 he'd score more and create less too... get the picture ?!

kuyt is an absolute joke in that position whether u agree with me on that or not .. forget about kuyt and pennant for a sec.
just let me get one thing straight.. ur trying to tell me that a player who has:
a) good pace
b) good crossing
c) good dribbling

shouldnt play because kuyt who is A HARD WORKER deserves that spot more ? based on what ? and plz dnt bring stats into it !

Its all well and good having good pace and dribbling and crossin , but no point if you dont do it on a consistent enough basis of which is what pennant never was . speedy had great pace could cross and dribble but never did it when it matter. Lost count the amount of times i have seen pennant under hit or over hit a cross missing anyone who is in the box .

Think someone posted it - pennant had 6-8 assists where as kuyt had 10 -13 .

:laugh:

Complete lack of understanding of the game.

also do consider how many games they each played, then look at the %

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:33 am
by k3nny1984
dont think pennant is the answer he hasnt done anything for me fair play the lad has ability but i dont believe he has the ability to pull on the mighty red shirt of our beloved club