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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:06 am
by Walk On
mgabby wrote:username wrote:ok, according to the champions league thing
http://www.footballtables.net if Besiktas beat Porto, and we draw to Marsaille with anything but a 0-0, we will go through
sorry mate ... you are wrong.
if we draw and turks win there are 3 teams with 8 and turks with 9.
in that case, we check games between those 3 teams : and it is still tied ( 5 point each).
so we go to goal difference in the 3 team group.
pool is with +2
frogs with 0
porto with -2
Fookin uefa, it seems my gcse maths is no longer enough, just signing up to a maths degree
why not keep it simple and just let us go thru
reality is we gota beat the froggies ![sniffle :sniffle](https://www.liverpoolfc-newkit.co.uk/images/smilies/sniffle.gif)
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:10 am
by account deleted by request
Sabre wrote:s@int wrote:Sabre wrote:Match complete in a windows media compatible video
First halfSecnd HalfIf this illegal send someone to arrest me in Spain
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Somethings wrong Sabre, its saying both links are for the first half mate.
My fault, I'll edit the second link right now
Second Half
The quality is not great, it will take a couple of hours to get a quality release, but at least you can hear the atmosphere well
Thanks for that mate, my son will be made up as he had to work tonight.
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:22 am
by Rush Job
Marseilles are a very poor side at this level, yes they caught us out but i cant see it happenin again and considering theyve got to come out and play i think this will suit us. Away forms been great, lets face it if we cant beet this lot in a must win game for both then we dont deserve to go through.But we will because we do.
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:27 am
by username
username wrote:mgabby wrote:username wrote:ok, according to the champions league thing
http://www.footballtables.net if Besiktas beat Porto, and we draw to Marsaille with anything but a 0-0, we will go through
sorry mate ... you are wrong.
if we draw and turks win there are 3 teams with 8 and turks with 9.
in that case, we check games between those 3 teams : and it is still tied ( 5 point each).
so we go to goal difference in the 3 team group.
pool is with +2
frogs with 0
porto with -2
It doesnt go stright to goal diffrence, as Marsaille would win by away goals rule. We have to get an away goal if Besiktas would beat porto
just to try and make this clearer
so, Liverpool can qualify with just a draw, but its really complicated
if Porto lose to Besiktas there is a type of order for 2nd place (Besiktas get first), it goes by head to head, which goes by
Liverpool > porto > Marseille > Liverpool etc
so its a chain. Which means it goes to goal diffrence? No, it goes to away goals. What does that mean? It means if liverpool draw, as long as we score a goal (anything but 0-0) we would advance by goal diffrence OR away goals.
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:37 am
by Anfield rapper
The frogs must be cacking themselves after watching us score 12 in our last 2 matches. I had a good feeling about tonight. The game against the frogs should be memorable.
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:49 am
by mgabby
username wrote:username wrote:mgabby wrote:username wrote:ok, according to the champions league thing
http://www.footballtables.net if Besiktas beat Porto, and we draw to Marsaille with anything but a 0-0, we will go through
sorry mate ... you are wrong.
if we draw and turks win there are 3 teams with 8 and turks with 9.
in that case, we check games between those 3 teams : and it is still tied ( 5 point each).
so we go to goal difference in the 3 team group.
pool is with +2
frogs with 0
porto with -2
It doesnt go stright to goal diffrence, as Marsaille would win by away goals rule. We have to get an away goal if Besiktas would beat porto
just to try and make this clearer
so, Liverpool can qualify with just a draw, but its really complicated
if Porto lose to Besiktas there is a type of order for 2nd place (Besiktas get first), it goes by head to head, which goes by
Liverpool > porto > Marseille > Liverpool etc
so its a chain. Which means it goes to goal diffrence? No, it goes to away goals. What does that mean? It means if liverpool draw, as long as we score a goal (anything but 0-0) we would advance by goal diffrence OR away goals.
sorry lad, i think i am still right ...
The finishing order in the group phase is determined for each group as follows:
a. greater number of points obtained in all the group matches;
b. greater number of points from the matches between tied teams;
c. goal difference resulting from matches between tied teams;
d. greater number of goals scored in the matches between tied teams;
e. greater number of away goals scored in the matches between tied teams;
f. goal difference in all group matches;
g. greater number of goals scored in all group matches;
i. Co-efficient points of club and association over last 5 seasons
we are tied at a (8 points each)
we are tied at b (5 points each)
but we are first (from those 3) at c : we are +2 even if we draw 0-0
away goals are just in tie breaker e .....
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:51 am
by NANNY RED
Actually got a lump in me throat tonight when the players were coming out some of them were touching the This is Anfield sign as the were going past did anyone see Rafa raise both his hands up and touch it . He really
loves this club
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:52 am
by Ciggy
NANNY RED wrote:Actually got a lump in me throat tonight when the players were coming out some of them were touching the This is Anfield sign as the were going past did anyone see Rafa raise both his hands up and touch it . He really
loves this club
Yer queen our Rafa touched the this is anfield sign, wanted to cry.
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:55 am
by Yessicajax
what is the this is anfield sign.?
sorry i dont know!!
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:57 am
by username
you might be right
a) higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question, (b) superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question
so if we draw, we win by goal diffrence thanks to the porto match
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:02 am
by redtrader74
bigmick wrote:The funny thing is about the "rotation works" thing, you definately will have people coming on here later on and talking about the tactical genius of changing the whole of the midfield and winning the game
Unbelieveable but true.
I suppose its as perverse as saying it doesn't work when we fail to win, however well we played. ![wink :;):](https://www.liverpoolfc-newkit.co.uk/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:02 am
by The Manhattan Project
Yessicajax wrote:what is the this is anfield sign.?
sorry i dont know!!
It sits over the entrance tunnel where the players walk out onto the pitch.
Touching it gives a LFC player magical powers.
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:02 am
by NANNY RED
Yessicajax wrote:what is the this is anfield sign.?
sorry i dont know!!
Its a sign love that is just above the entrance to the pitch most of our players reach up and touch it as they go onto the pitch tonight Rafa stopped just for a second and reached up and touched it with both hands. GOD BLESS RAFA ![bowdown :bowdown](https://www.liverpoolfc-newkit.co.uk/images/smilies/bowdown.gif)
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:03 am
by JoeTerp
username wrote:you might be right
a) higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question, (b) superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question
so if we draw, we win by goal diffrence thanks to the porto match
only if Besitas win AND we draw
If the game would have finished 1-1 we would pretty much still be in the same position, needing a win in France because I can't see anything but a Porto win over the Turks.
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:03 am
by Kharhaz
The Manhattan Project wrote:Yessicajax wrote:what is the this is anfield sign.?
sorry i dont know!!
It sits over the entrance tunnel where the players walk out onto the pitch.
Touching it gives a LFC player magical powers.
Bill Shankly popped it up there to unnerve the opposition and to remind them where they are !