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Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:38 pmby laza
s@int wrote:Bad Bob wrote:lakes10 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:Nothing wrong with the statement, IMO. Not least because it's true. I don't think it's anything more than Rafa telling one of his more reliable players not to rest on his laurels and to get back to somewhere near his best. To be fair, he could make the same statement about a fair few of his players at the moment. For the record, he could also stand to play his players in their best positions and stick with in form players but that's a topic covered in 1 or 2 other threads...
no need to do it in the public is there, pull the player to one side and tell him, and if you do that you should not go and then tell the press about it. bad people management by Rafa.
Well if he was asked the question about Alonso in an interview and he gave an honest answer, what's the problem? Too many times people criticize Rafa for not being honest about our play and our players to the press. Yet, when he does say something most people are thinking, he gets criticized for it. Go figure.
But why tell the truth about Alonso and then spoil it by lying about Kuyt?
Troublemaker
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:42 pmby lakes10
Bad Bob wrote:lakes10 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:Nothing wrong with the statement, IMO. Not least because it's true. I don't think it's anything more than Rafa telling one of his more reliable players not to rest on his laurels and to get back to somewhere near his best. To be fair, he could make the same statement about a fair few of his players at the moment. For the record, he could also stand to play his players in their best positions and stick with in form players but that's a topic covered in 1 or 2 other threads...
no need to do it in the public is there, pull the player to one side and tell him, and if you do that you should not go and then tell the press about it. bad people management by Rafa.
Well if he was asked the question about Alonso in an interview and he gave an honest answer, what's the problem? Too many times people criticize Rafa for not being honest about our play and our players to the press. Yet, when he does say something most people are thinking, he gets criticized for it. Go figure.
as we keep saying about the owners.......Its not the Liverpool way.
I take it if its ok for Rafa to say stuff like this in the press then it must also be ok for the owners to do the same???
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:32 pmby Sabre
If one fan who's fallen in love with Alonso finds no wrong in Rafa's words about Alonso, then it can't be so terrible words. I hope no-one argues now it's because I'm more pro Rafa than pro Alonso!
I don't think it's the first time he says something like this.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:37 pmby Bad Bob
lakes10 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:lakes10 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:Nothing wrong with the statement, IMO. Not least because it's true. I don't think it's anything more than Rafa telling one of his more reliable players not to rest on his laurels and to get back to somewhere near his best. To be fair, he could make the same statement about a fair few of his players at the moment. For the record, he could also stand to play his players in their best positions and stick with in form players but that's a topic covered in 1 or 2 other threads...
no need to do it in the public is there, pull the player to one side and tell him, and if you do that you should not go and then tell the press about it. bad people management by Rafa.
Well if he was asked the question about Alonso in an interview and he gave an honest answer, what's the problem? Too many times people criticize Rafa for not being honest about our play and our players to the press. Yet, when he does say something most people are thinking, he gets criticized for it. Go figure.
as we keep saying about the owners.......Its not the Liverpool way.
I take it if its ok for Rafa to say stuff like this in the press then it must also be ok for the owners to do the same???
Lakes, if you can't see the difference between a manager publically letting a player know--in a very gentle and respectful way--that he has to step up his game and a pair of owners publically undermining the manager by telling the world they had tried to line up a replacement who's achieved nothing as a manager at club level, I despair.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:45 pmby lakes10
Bad Bob wrote:lakes10 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:lakes10 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:Nothing wrong with the statement, IMO. Not least because it's true. I don't think it's anything more than Rafa telling one of his more reliable players not to rest on his laurels and to get back to somewhere near his best. To be fair, he could make the same statement about a fair few of his players at the moment. For the record, he could also stand to play his players in their best positions and stick with in form players but that's a topic covered in 1 or 2 other threads...
no need to do it in the public is there, pull the player to one side and tell him, and if you do that you should not go and then tell the press about it. bad people management by Rafa.
Well if he was asked the question about Alonso in an interview and he gave an honest answer, what's the problem? Too many times people criticize Rafa for not being honest about our play and our players to the press. Yet, when he does say something most people are thinking, he gets criticized for it. Go figure.
as we keep saying about the owners.......Its not the Liverpool way.
I take it if its ok for Rafa to say stuff like this in the press then it must also be ok for the owners to do the same???
Lakes, if you can't see the difference between a manager publically letting a player know--in a very gentle and respectful way--that he has to step up his game and a pair of owners publically undermining the manager by telling the world they had tried to line up a replacement who's achieved nothing as a manager at club level, I despair.
so undermining a player that has been out of the team and trying his best to get fit is ok then??
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:01 pmby redtrader74
What a surprise, Lakes on a wind up again. The hatred for the manager from some is such that everything he does now recieves the obligatory criticism. How about assessing each topic on its merits rather than looking for the most tenuous reason to find fault with Rafa.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:12 pmby god_bless_john_houlding
I'm not a fan of Benitez but I think coming out admitting that certain players aren't performing up to standards is a sign of him finally realising something is going wrong. I can see where Lakes is coming from, it's not the Liverpool way to publically talk about our problems, we're a club who keeps any problems in house, but sometimes it's this sort of thing that gives players the kick up the ar.se they need.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:25 pmby Sabre
redtrader74 wrote:What a surprise, Lakes on a wind up again. The hatred for the manager from some is such that everything he does now recieves the obligatory criticism. How about assessing each topic on its merits rather than looking for the most tenuous reason to find fault with Rafa.
+1
If he had defended Alonso and said that he's playing great and he's just being rotated, Lakes10 would be saying that Rafa is deluded, that he can't possibly say the players are doing well, etc, etc, etc.
I don't think this statement is out of order. He said something similar when mascherano came, he said something similar when Crouch was left out of the squad at the start of season, I simply understand this as a encouragement for the player.
It's funny some people want Mourinho if they can't accept an statement like this, which has been gentle and correct.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:46 pmby The_Rock
Sabre wrote:It's funny some people want Mourinho if they can't accept an statement like this, which has been gentle and correct.
I still want mourinho as the new Liverpool manager come next season...
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:07 pmby redmikey
The_Rock wrote:Sabre wrote:It's funny some people want Mourinho if they can't accept an statement like this, which has been gentle and correct.
I still want mourinho as the new Liverpool manager come next season...
i just can't deal with the idea of another five year plan
and i think rafa is doing a great job of turning are squad around from where he took it over
as far as xabi goes he has followed momo's form of amazing us when he turn up into consistent first season to a drop in form due to injury and masha being in his place. but class is permanent and if he works hard rafa will rotate the middle of the park to give them all enough games.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:09 pmby Lando_Griffin
I can't see a lot wrong with Rafa's words there.
Alonso is by far and away my favourite player, but a simple "If you want your place back - fight for it" never did anyone any harm.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:13 pmby burjennio
Lando_Griffin Posted on Feb. 04 2008,16:09
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I can't see a lot wrong with Rafa's words there.
Alonso is by far and away my favourite player, but a simple "If you want your place back - fight for it" never did anyone any harm.
I had heard that you was banned fella?
GBJH and Dav have been running roughshot over the true believers. Peewees back too, indeed its been dark times for the Jedi
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:17 pmby Lando_Griffin
burjennio wrote:Lando_Griffin Posted on Feb. 04 2008,16:09
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I can't see a lot wrong with Rafa's words there.
Alonso is by far and away my favourite player, but a simple "If you want your place back - fight for it" never did anyone any harm.
I had heard that you was banned fella?
GBJH and Dav have been running roughshot over the true believers. Peewees back too, indeed its been dark times for the Jedi
Worry not, young Jedi.
I am back:
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:18 pmby Igor Zidane
Lando_Griffin wrote:I can't see a lot wrong with Rafa's words there.
Alonso is by far and away my favourite player, but a simple "If you want your place back - fight for it" never did anyone any harm.
Should have sold alonso instead of momo. 
Igor runs for cover........
only messin lash , welcome back.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:18 pmby Sabre
WElcome back Lando!!!