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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:09 am
by kunilson
title of this post is perfect for what just dawned on me at work today....(forgive the london club theme)

There's only one...
Fernando Torres
Theres only one...
Fernando Torres
He rejected the mancs,
so now they can W*nk
over their sister brother father mother tooooo.

:laugh:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:25 pm
by god_bless_john_houlding
Bad Bob wrote:
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Please can people belt up about injuries. Agger gets injured we're bringing in Finland's greatest ever centre half. Alonso gets injured we're bringing in one of Argentina's most important players. Torres gets injured we bring in another full international. Injuries are just an excuse to paper over the cracks of what's proven to be a very average side.

You seem to be under some misapprehension that all internationals are created equal.  Is Dirk--full Dutch international--Kuyt anywhere near as good as Torres?  No.  Is Sami Hyypia today on par with a younger, more-comfortable-on-the-ball Dan Agger?  Nope.  Does Mascherano have the same range of passing as Alonso?  Don't think so.  The injuries matter.  You make out like we're potential world-beaters because we're a team full of internationals (you've even used Riise as an example in other posts) and then you say we're a very average side?  What's the deal? ???

Again you can take it both ways. Does Agger have the reading of the game Hyypia has? No. Does Torres pressure defenders the way Kuyt does? No. Does Torres give us the same option as Crocuh? No. Does Alonso have the ability to tackle and break up play the way Mascheranho does? No. So again I'll say injuries are just an excuse for when things aren't going right. If Kuyt and believe me it's a really big if, but anyway if Kuyt was scoring at will this season, would we be moaning about losing Torres to injury then? Of course not, so I'm not one to accept injuries as an excuse for poor performances especially when you have the quality of players we have at our disposal.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:34 pm
by Bad Bob
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Please can people belt up about injuries. Agger gets injured we're bringing in Finland's greatest ever centre half. Alonso gets injured we're bringing in one of Argentina's most important players. Torres gets injured we bring in another full international. Injuries are just an excuse to paper over the cracks of what's proven to be a very average side.

You seem to be under some misapprehension that all internationals are created equal.  Is Dirk--full Dutch international--Kuyt anywhere near as good as Torres?  No.  Is Sami Hyypia today on par with a younger, more-comfortable-on-the-ball Dan Agger?  Nope.  Does Mascherano have the same range of passing as Alonso?  Don't think so.  The injuries matter.  You make out like we're potential world-beaters because we're a team full of internationals (you've even used Riise as an example in other posts) and then you say we're a very average side?  What's the deal? ???

Again you can take it both ways. Does Agger have the reading of the game Hyypia has? No. Does Torres pressure defenders the way Kuyt does? No. Does Torres give us the same option as Crocuh? No. Does Alonso have the ability to tackle and break up play the way Mascheranho does? No. So again I'll say injuries are just an excuse for when things aren't going right. If Kuyt and believe me it's a really big if, but anyway if Kuyt was scoring at will this season, would we be moaning about losing Torres to injury then? Of course not, so I'm not one to accept injuries as an excuse for poor performances especially when you have the quality of players we have at our disposal.

Right, you must be the only supporter who doesn't feel Torres is streets ahead of our other three strikers or that Sami--true legend that he was--has not started to show his age when played twice a week for the past six weeks.  Get a grip, mate.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:40 pm
by god_bless_john_houlding
Torres is obviously our best forward and Hyypia is certainly on the decline, but I still won't take injuries as an excuse. The truth of the matter is, we have "quality" players and a so called brilliant manager, well somewhere along the line these quality players and brilliant manager have forced us to be an average side.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:49 pm
by hello_red
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Torres is obviously our best forward and Hyypia is certainly on the decline, but I still won't take injuries as an excuse. The truth of the matter is, we have "quality" players and a so called brilliant manager, well somewhere along the line these quality players and brilliant manager have forced us to be an average side.

That my friend is the rantings of a visionless retard!

Why? Because you obviosuly have no clue as to what you are watching. When I watch Liverpool at the minute I see a team low on confidence and therefore flair. Agger and Alonso, our two most important people attack wise, are injured still and have been for about 2 months now i think. And Torres is injured aswell. Gerrard and Mascherano are still playing yes but play makers they certainly are not.

Watch the games!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:06 pm
by The Manhattan Project
I woke up on Sunday morning. The sun was shining it was a new dawning. Then I wound my way down to Baker Street. I was light in my head and dead on my feet. It was another crazy day, I thought I'd drink my night away, and forget about everything.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:31 pm
by bigmick
Ah Rafferty of the Gerrence fame Manhatten. What with your Rinus Michels references and journeys back into musical nostalgia, you're getting all whimsical in your old age.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:59 am
by The Manhattan Project
Manhattan ages differently to other humans.

I was born old and with each passing year, I progressively get younger.

Doctors are bewildered.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:17 am
by account deleted by request
The Manhattan Project wrote:Manhattan ages differently to other humans.

I was born old and with each passing year, I progressively get younger.

Doctors are bewildered.

I am pretty sure you have all the psychiatrist's puzzled as well mate  :D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:18 am
by LFC2007
The Manhattan Project wrote:Manhattan ages differently to other humans.

I was born old and with each passing year, I progressively get younger.

Doctors are bewildered.

:laugh:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:20 am
by username
The Manhattan Project wrote:Manhattan ages differently to other humans.

I was born old and with each passing year, I progressively get younger.

Doctors are bewildered.

You were born old? I feel for you mum  :(

:D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:10 am
by Kharhaz
He was just wrinkly but had cosmetic surgery very, very,..........very early ! His first words were BOTOX !