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Liverpool 4 EVA wrote:

Chelsea forever. wrote:Fernando was a top player many years ago for Madrid. He played alongside Raul. At Monaco he peaked, he was arguably the most expensive player in the club which didnt have so many star players. He and Guily along with Rotthen were the heart of the team. Its easy to play well when you have 2 or 3 players who are known as the best in the team.

At Liverpool he isnt the star of the team, people will talk about Gerrard, Carra, Alonso, Hamman, Hyypia, Sisoko, Garcia and then about Fernando.

He doesnt have the pace for the English game, he doesnt have the muscle for the English defenders ... he doesnt have confidence at the moment - none at all. Once he scores a few he will be in good sync -- but im far from convinced that he will score 15+ goals.

You see this is why I always like reading your posts Chelsea forever, you are usually fair and make good points.

mmmmm, Morientes just seems to be suffering from depression or something similar, he looks so uncomfortable, he misses headers he would usually score with his eyes closed, clearly something is BADLY wrong with him, and the matter is not helped when he gets such poor service.

His mental state is affecting his game so badly, it's extremely sad to see such a great footballer become what he is at this moment in time.

Thing is, it's not just Morientes that's not playing well, I think most of the team is not playing all that hot right now and most of the focus is on el Moro because he is being picked as the main striker and not scoring.

When Morientes is ok, he plays best in a team that is compact and plays one touch football, with good crossers.

I diasgree with you regarding Morientes physical power, he is in fact a VERY strong and muscular player....having said that perhaps you are right when it comes to the speed of the premiership not suiting el Moro.

Deep down somwhere he's still gotta be that awesome player, that just doesn't disappear 12 months.

Even if Morientes was fully fit mentally, I am certain that he would encounter the same problems as Crespo in Chelsea.

Cheers

Apparently Nando  can get used  to  coffee machines in  garages  that charge a quid  a cup??
After  that he'll be  fine and score loads o goals for us for  sure as Raffa wud say!!
No Viva Coffee machines, Je n sais Pa !!
No milk and sugar ?
Non Comprehende ffs!! I want vodka said Sylvian Distin as he signed for a great team!!
Raffa said no! u will drink portugese wine at the bridge,believe me it tastes sooooo much better and this taste  u willl become in ur mind!!
And that taste will bring us great things said Raffa!  Some looked in awe as a great man spoke and wondered what exactly he meant?
And they were told! Cause Carra stood up and  shouted at the   top of his voice what exactly it means to play for the Pool and when he spoke they listened !
He told them about the Shankly days,when players played for the badge and had little pay!! He showed them all his arm,an Everton badge  and spoke of how sore it was and  how easy it was  to get removed  and they listened harder!!
Because now  they felt like the Everton badge on carras arm?
And it can  be removed,this our great manager has shown by keping every single member of our great squad on his/her toes(For Harry)
Hence they try harder and we progress!!  And  will continue to do so until Raffa says oherwise!
God save our king!!

RedorDead wrote:I havn't read every post on this thread so apologies if I repeat anyone elese's points but I feel I have to say something on this topic. I want to make it perfectly clear that I REALLY REALLY do not want to see Djibril Cisse leave Liverpool. Tonight for me showed exactly what he is about. He is very very quick and has an excellent attitude. With games, experience, coaching and confidence will come improved skill and ability too. I am not saying he lacks the ability but he is not a naturally gifted player like Henry for example.
What he does for us right now is try and try and at the end of the day if you get as many chances per game as he gets then you are going to score. His attitude and enthusiasm is unparalelled at this club, his fight back from injury last season was inspirational and this leads me to my next point. He inspires the team, not in the same "scruff of the neck" way that Gerrard does but did you see the after game celebrations last night? The players love him, it is clear and that team bonding and camaradery is something a lot of teams lack. Man Utd have been lacking it of late although they had it plenty in their successful years and while I hate Sh1tski Mourine has instilled that atmosphere in his team.
I am rambling now but point is simple. Keep Cisse. He is good for the team on the pitch and good for the team off it....and as someone mentioned, why on earth can we not have him and Owen and Nando and Crouch? We are the European Cup holders and want to win the Prem, a strike force of that size and quality is what is required as a minimum, it is not even a luxury in my book. We need to keep Cisse.....have I said that enough?