Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:26 pmSALTROCK67 wrote:Not really just venting some anger after a s**t day at work.
sorry it just sounded like you were whining
sorry it just sounded like you were whining
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:26 pmsorry it just sounded like you were whining
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:29 pmWell we have swapped a 30 year old Swiss centre back for a 33 year old Argentine. Pellegrino found himself in the same position as Henchoz, frozen out by a new manager. Benitez obviously sees this guy as a better short term option than Henchoz, afterall hes only signed a 6 month deal. The way our lucks going he will end up injured for 3 of those 
. Anyways, as I know nothing of this player I can only say time will tell with him.
. Anyways, as I know nothing of this player I can only say time will tell with him.Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:31 pmNo,its just when names like Morro,Anelka,Aimar are in the frame it just seemsa bit of a downer but good luck to the guy i hope he does well. 
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:32 pmfrom what i read, it is a 6mth loan with a option to sign him up for free at the end of the season (as he still has a "6 mths to go" contract with valencia)
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:57 pmThe Canadian Red Army wrote:I think some of you guys just whine to much
Little bubbles in the wine, make me feel happy, make me feel fine !!
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:57 pmRedrider wrote:SALTROCK67 wrote:Not really the transfer we are waiting for,you get all keyed up for the window and then they sign a 33yr old sausage.Oh well things can only get better i hope.Oh and where do Newcastle get all their money from.Parry take note!!!
It dosn't sound like the kind of signing that will have Gerrard saying we are going places and i'm going to stay to be part of it !!
F**k Gerrard, we don't have to justify nothin to him, if he doesn't like what Rafa is doing then he can go to Chelski as Rafa Benitez is the manager and not Steven Gerrard
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:02 pmNice one dude.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:08 pmPaul C wrote:Redrider wrote:SALTROCK67 wrote:Not really the transfer we are waiting for,you get all keyed up for the window and then they sign a 33yr old sausage.Oh well things can only get better i hope.Oh and where do Newcastle get all their money from.Parry take note!!!
It dosn't sound like the kind of signing that will have Gerrard saying we are going places and i'm going to stay to be part of it !!
F**k Gerrard, we don't have to justify nothin to him, if he doesn't like what Rafa is doing then he can go to Chelski as Rafa Benitez is the manager and not Steven Gerrard
Forget Gerrard the personality. What I am referring to is the principle of setting up a team that is going somewhere, with some ambition and future.
Rafa, has now been in the command seat for six months and he should be calling off purchases for his team for the next 5 years. This does not look like a forward looking purchase !!
Dont forget other prospective players will also have a view on where we appear to be going with the players we are buying, when they may consider interest from LFC.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:10 pmIf you all want to know about Pellegrino, I got it from RAWK..............have a look
Some people are just too obsessed with age and pace. Yes, he is 33, but age is just a number. Being 33 years older doesn't mean he is slower than Henchoz. He and Henchoz are two different types of players.
Henchoz is an excellent man marker, but Rafa doesn't play man marking. Henchoz does move far from the box, but we had been defending near the halfway line this season. Our defence is more about preventing the opposition from getting into the box which is not part of Henchoz's game. He had did his job for us, but times have changed, he is surplus to requirement and should make himself useful elsewhere with our blessing.
Pellegrino is a big, intelligent, seasoned player who is good in the air. He is free and only signed until the end of the season with an option for another year. So if he doesn't perform, he is gone. There is no risk involved. It also free money for signings in other departments.
His arrival shouldn't be seen as an obstacle to the youngsters' progress. Whitbread and Raven are playing regularly for the reserves and in the Carling Cup. They are having their chances. A mentor like Pellegrino will pass on some experience to them. We should not get carried away by their performance in the Carling Cup. they did well, but let's not hurry them too much. Our reserves haven't been doing too well either. They still have a lot to learn. Whitbread is only 20 and Raven is just 19. They still have time on their side. Traore is getting games at LB and is learning in the first team. Playing at LB could be good for him to gain experience before he makes the transition to the centre.
As for the possiblilty of Pellegrino and Hyypia retiring at the same time, it is not time to worry about that yet. We do not even know if he will still be in the team next season. If he goes, we will just need to go back into the transfer market for a new replacement and there could be better options available then than now.
Some people are just too obsessed with age and pace. Yes, he is 33, but age is just a number. Being 33 years older doesn't mean he is slower than Henchoz. He and Henchoz are two different types of players.
Henchoz is an excellent man marker, but Rafa doesn't play man marking. Henchoz does move far from the box, but we had been defending near the halfway line this season. Our defence is more about preventing the opposition from getting into the box which is not part of Henchoz's game. He had did his job for us, but times have changed, he is surplus to requirement and should make himself useful elsewhere with our blessing.
Pellegrino is a big, intelligent, seasoned player who is good in the air. He is free and only signed until the end of the season with an option for another year. So if he doesn't perform, he is gone. There is no risk involved. It also free money for signings in other departments.
His arrival shouldn't be seen as an obstacle to the youngsters' progress. Whitbread and Raven are playing regularly for the reserves and in the Carling Cup. They are having their chances. A mentor like Pellegrino will pass on some experience to them. We should not get carried away by their performance in the Carling Cup. they did well, but let's not hurry them too much. Our reserves haven't been doing too well either. They still have a lot to learn. Whitbread is only 20 and Raven is just 19. They still have time on their side. Traore is getting games at LB and is learning in the first team. Playing at LB could be good for him to gain experience before he makes the transition to the centre.
As for the possiblilty of Pellegrino and Hyypia retiring at the same time, it is not time to worry about that yet. We do not even know if he will still be in the team next season. If he goes, we will just need to go back into the transfer market for a new replacement and there could be better options available then than now.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:14 pmyeah, fair enough, convinced me.
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:37 pmStan Laurel wrote:If you all want to know about Pellegrino, I got it from RAWK..............have a look
Some people are just too obsessed with age and pace. Yes, he is 33, but age is just a number. Being 33 years older doesn't mean he is slower than Henchoz. He and Henchoz are two different types of players.
Henchoz is an excellent man marker, but Rafa doesn't play man marking. Henchoz does move far from the box, but we had been defending near the halfway line this season. Our defence is more about preventing the opposition from getting into the box which is not part of Henchoz's game. He had did his job for us, but times have changed, he is surplus to requirement and should make himself useful elsewhere with our blessing.
Pellegrino is a big, intelligent, seasoned player who is good in the air. He is free and only signed until the end of the season with an option for another year. So if he doesn't perform, he is gone. There is no risk involved. It also free money for signings in other departments.
His arrival shouldn't be seen as an obstacle to the youngsters' progress. Whitbread and Raven are playing regularly for the reserves and in the Carling Cup. They are having their chances. A mentor like Pellegrino will pass on some experience to them. We should not get carried away by their performance in the Carling Cup. they did well, but let's not hurry them too much. Our reserves haven't been doing too well either. They still have a lot to learn. Whitbread is only 20 and Raven is just 19. They still have time on their side. Traore is getting games at LB and is learning in the first team. Playing at LB could be good for him to gain experience before he makes the transition to the centre.
As for the possiblilty of Pellegrino and Hyypia retiring at the same time, it is not time to worry about that yet. We do not even know if he will still be in the team next season. If he goes, we will just need to go back into the transfer market for a new replacement and there could be better options available then than now.
you have made more sense in one sentance, than redrider has on this topic
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:37 pmi don't understand why everyone is so worked up about this. we're getting another player, a decent and experienced one - for free. yes free. it doesn't mean that we're not getting anyone else and it doesn't mean hyppia or carra are gonna go.
whats the big fat problem?
whats the big fat problem?
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:13 pmWhat is really all this fuss about how old Pelligrino is? If I am not mistaken, Spurs have also signed an aged but experienced defender, Naybet, from Depor who is some 32 or 33 or 34 but he has been playing well for them since coming here.
He is on a Bosman, has been an established defender at Valencia and should give us some defensive thrust in the short to medium term.
He is on a Bosman, has been an established defender at Valencia and should give us some defensive thrust in the short to medium term.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:19 amYou guys are just ****** that all the hype over anelka, morientes, aimar and god knows who else hasnt materealise and all we get is a 33 year old, who I may add many have not heard of..
One thing for sure, I ve seen him play and I think he;s as good as ayala if not better. Quality signing, on the free, six months contract: - cant get much wrong with that...
Good signing rafa!!!
Now, for a striker!!
One thing for sure, I ve seen him play and I think he;s as good as ayala if not better. Quality signing, on the free, six months contract: - cant get much wrong with that...
Good signing rafa!!!
Now, for a striker!!
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:50 amYeah.... where are other signings? The transfer window is open for 1 week only right ? I think Rafa is improving the technical side of the team and not really weight on the individual.