Liverpool FC Forum

roberto green » Fri May 18, 2012 11:56 am wrote:Whether or not we like it or not, 4th place matters more than the domestic cups now, sure it's a great day out to the finals but does winning a cup generate the revenue to attract the top players or top sponsorship to improve year in year out....No

Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, Man city and even Spurs if you ask them what there targets are it will be to get the top 4 minimum, we need to move on and get with the times,  as much as it saddens me footbal has changed and we can either go in to a season looking to win the mickey mouse cup and not move forward or start putting foundations in place with a new look modern vision,  and yes it's all about business now but a good business will bring success.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 12:05 pm wrote:
in a way i dont mind that they`ve clarified the situation, i`m gutted about the f.a cup, when i was growing up winning that was like winning the CL and thats not an exaggeration, before the season started everyone used to say what would you rather win this year, the league or the cup and half the fans would say the cup.
but at least i know not to waste my money on any meaningless games so i thank them for that.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 12:05 pm wrote:

roberto green » Fri May 18, 2012 11:56 am wrote:Whether or not we like it or not, 4th place matters more than the domestic cups now, sure it's a great day out to the finals but does winning a cup generate the revenue to attract the top players or top sponsorship to improve year in year out....No

Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, Man city and even Spurs if you ask them what there targets are it will be to get the top 4 minimum, we need to move on and get with the times,  as much as it saddens me footbal has changed and we can either go in to a season looking to win the mickey mouse cup and not move forward or start putting foundations in place with a new look modern vision,  and yes it's all about business now but a good business will bring success.

in a way i dont mind that they`ve clarified the situation, i`m gutted about the f.a cup, when i was growing up winning that was like winning the CL and thats not an exaggeration, before the season started everyone used to say what would you rather win this year, the league or the cup and half the fans would say the cup.
but at least i know not to waste my money on any meaningless games so i thank them for that.

stmichael » Fri May 18, 2012 12:27 pm wrote:Another major thing that worries me is lack of stadium plans. That's a major blot on FSG imo.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 12:33 pm wrote:

stmichael » Fri May 18, 2012 12:27 pm wrote:Another major thing that worries me is lack of stadium plans. That's a major blot on FSG imo.

thats one thing i actually dont mind, i think anfield should be redeveloped, the fact we play at anfield is about the only thing keeping me supporting this club at the moment

Boxscarf » Fri May 18, 2012 12:04 pm wrote:

Penguins » Fri May 18, 2012 11:58 am wrote:But what they are saying that the league comes 1st which we can all agree on. That is the bread n butter and should not be sacrificed for the cups.
League comes 1st simple as.

1st place in the League counts, not 4th place. If we want Champions League football then we should do so trying to win the League title, not trying to scrape into the top four. That in itself shows a complete lack of ambition. When Benitez was our manager and was getting 4th place, 3rd place and even 2nd place that wasn't good enough for us. People used to post "if you are 1st you are 1st, if you are 2nd, you are nothing". Now it appears that supporters are dumbing down expectations faster than the Government are at dumbing down GCSE and A-level examinations. When Shankly said the league title was our bread and butter, he meant in terms of winning it, not finishing 4th to qualify for Europe. 4th next season would mark significant progress, that's not an achievement. Winning trophies is the ultimate achievement of a manager and a club. Nobody remembers 4th place or 3rd or 2nd, they remember 1st and that's what we should be aiming for.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 12:05 pm wrote:

roberto green » Fri May 18, 2012 11:56 am wrote:Whether or not we like it or not, 4th place matters more than the domestic cups now, sure it's a great day out to the finals but does winning a cup generate the revenue to attract the top players or top sponsorship to improve year in year out....No

Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, Man city and even Spurs if you ask them what there targets are it will be to get the top 4 minimum, we need to move on and get with the times,  as much as it saddens me footbal has changed and we can either go in to a season looking to win the mickey mouse cup and not move forward or start putting foundations in place with a new look modern vision,  and yes it's all about business now but a good business will bring success.

in a way i dont mind that they`ve clarified the situation, i`m gutted about the f.a cup, when i was growing up winning that was like winning the CL and thats not an exaggeration, before the season started everyone used to say what would you rather win this year, the league or the cup and half the fans would say the cup.
but at least i know not to waste my money on any meaningless games so i thank them for that.

mart » Fri May 18, 2012 2:36 pm wrote:My biggest worry is this new management structure. I wonder what kind of manager will accept having so little power in the club.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 11:09 am wrote:i wont be going to another cup game while these are in charge, whats the point? the manager would be a divvy if he put out a good side.
glad i never went down to wembley now, lot of money to spend on a meaningless competition, feel sorry for those who went down there 3 times last season.

supersub » Fri May 18, 2012 10:59 am wrote:I ask all season ticket holders not to tick the box for the automated cup ticket scheme..................they don't matter so don't pay for it