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LFC2007 wrote:

john craig wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:

john craig wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:The sale of Finnan may be a footballing mistake because he was a reliable player, but assessing the effect of his departure on team morale is difficult if you're not an insider.

It's no more difficult than guessing exactly what went on behind the scenes between Benitez and the board over the Barry deal, which is what you have done in coming to the conclusion that the Alonso and Finnan situations are the board's fault and not Rafa's.

I haven't concluded that the Alonso or Finnan situations were the board's fault, I've made a considered judgement based on what the board came out with, and what Rafa came out with on the subject of the Barry deal. Had the board stated two months earlier that Barry wasn't value for money, it probably wouldn't have dragged on a week until the deadline. The price was known from the outset. The logical knock on effect would've been greater clarity over the future of Alonso and Finnan.

Then you have the effect Finnan's departure may have on morale? I don't know the effect his departure may have on tem morale, I could speculate that it may have a negative effect because he was a respected pro and a long, and decent servant to the club, or I could speculate that the squad understand that players often get moved on, and at the age of 32 and with the signing of Degen, his opportunities may have been limited.

So in a nutshell, you haven't concluded that the Barry deal is the boards's fault, you have made a considered judgement that it is.  Cheers.

Do you fancy a debate about the different meanings of the word 'conclude' or would you prefer to talk about the topic at hand?

john craig wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:

john craig wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:

john craig wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:The sale of Finnan may be a footballing mistake because he was a reliable player, but assessing the effect of his departure on team morale is difficult if you're not an insider.

It's no more difficult than guessing exactly what went on behind the scenes between Benitez and the board over the Barry deal, which is what you have done in coming to the conclusion that the Alonso and Finnan situations are the board's fault and not Rafa's.

I haven't concluded that the Alonso or Finnan situations were the board's fault, I've made a considered judgement based on what the board came out with, and what Rafa came out with on the subject of the Barry deal. Had the board stated two months earlier that Barry wasn't value for money, it probably wouldn't have dragged on a week until the deadline. The price was known from the outset. The logical knock on effect would've been greater clarity over the future of Alonso and Finnan.

Then you have the effect Finnan's departure may have on morale? I don't know the effect his departure may have on tem morale, I could speculate that it may have a negative effect because he was a respected pro and a long, and decent servant to the club, or I could speculate that the squad understand that players often get moved on, and at the age of 32 and with the signing of Degen, his opportunities may have been limited.

So in a nutshell, you haven't concluded that the Barry deal is the boards's fault, you have made a considered judgement that it is.  Cheers.

Do you fancy a debate about the different meanings of the word 'conclude' or would you prefer to talk about the topic at hand?

Judging by some of your posts mate, you'd probably enjoy a debate about the word 'conclude'.  Not interested though.  Pm me if you have a problem, don't ruin the thread.

What thr fuck are you two wittering on about?

Effes wrote:

What thr fuck are you two wittering on about?

Don't ask

john craig wrote:Judging by some of your posts mate, you'd probably enjoy a debate about the word 'conclude'.  Not interested though.  Pm me if you have a problem, don't ruin the thread.

s@int wrote:FFS we have seen arguments about almost everything now, from hamstrings to definitions of a word 

I think if a team is winning and successful there is no problems with moral (or much else come to that), but if we should start losing I think we could find that we have big problems.

BEAT THE MANCS AND KILL NEVILLE!

s@int wrote:FFS we have seen arguments about almost everything now, from hamstrings to definitions of a word 

john craig wrote:

Effes wrote::laugh:

What thr fuck are you two wittering on about?

Don't ask

effes! u spelt ''the'' wrongly 

s@int wrote:FFS we have seen arguments about almost everything now, from hamstrings to definitions of a word 

I think if a team is winning and successful there is no problems with moral (or much else come to that), but if we should start losing I think we could find that we have big problems.

Do you think they have any morals?

And what was the morale of this story? Don't try and sign new players, or leave old ones out, because they'll have a hissy fit? Finnan wasn't a Rafa signing, he lasted a decent amount of time.