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Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:38 amby Scottbot
Leonmc0708 wrote:Gareth Barry, Robbie Keane - 30+ Premier League goals last season between them.
Is this a "concentration on the league" that so many crave or are we skint ?
That's reading a bit too much into i think although it's fair to say we're pretty skint compared to last summer. It's nothing new us going for English/British or English based players after they have had thier best season. Crouch, Pennant and Bellamy all fit this bill as does Zenden. Problem is we're gonna end up paying through the nose. Unfortunately Rafa doesn't seem to spot (or want a piece of) their potential UNTIL they have a cracking season for their respective sides hence we end up paying over the odds. Barry would have been an EXCELLENT (and considerably cheaper) signing in any of the previous three summers. I would have been delighted to see him sign for the club but now we're paying big money when it could have been £5-6 million. Same goes for Keane, quality player, has been for years, could have bought him instead of Bellamy but now he's tied into a long-term deal and Spurs are talking silly money for the player.
Saying that, i'm chuffed we are going after Keane but I reckon this one might run right up till deadline day.
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:49 amby Kharhaz
Unfortunately Rafa doesn't seem to spot (or want a piece of) their potential UNTIL they have a cracking season for their respective sides hence we end up paying over the odds.
That or our scouting system is really that bad.
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:01 amby LegBarnes
Owzat wrote:How many of Barny's 15 goals were penalties? Gerrard takes ours and since they can't both take all the penalties you can knock off a fair few of those
He would be handy for shoot-outs, not that we take part in that many
yeah but put him a team like ours he will fly he will be awesome : D
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:14 amby dawson99
can hardly say we are 'skint' if we are bidding 17 million for barry and 20million for keane guys
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:23 amby Scottbot
dawson99 wrote:can hardly say we are 'skint' if we are bidding 17 million for barry and 20million for keane guys
But Barry will end up working out as pretty much a straight swap and we will NEVER pay that sort of money for Keane mate.
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:29 amby dawson99
even so, lets stop making out we are poor, even if we are using players to sign players, the capital is the same and thats around 30million for 2 players, so we're hardly paupers
i think rafa is buying the players for the premiership, and about time!
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:27 amby Scottbot
dawson99 wrote:i think rafa is buying the players for the premiership, and about time!
He's always done that mate, like i said before - Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Zenden were all bought to the club because of their proven pedigree playing in the epl.
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:47 amby Owzat
Scottbot wrote:dawson99 wrote:i think rafa is buying the players for the premiership, and about time!
He's always done that mate, like i said before - Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Zenden were all bought to the club because of their proven pedigree playing in the epl.
And yet the proven successes are either scouse or foreign imports. The only real success story bought from another Premiership club (by Rafa) is Mascherano and he didn't really ever belong to Wet Sham
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:53 pmby Scottbot
Owzat wrote:Scottbot wrote:dawson99 wrote:i think rafa is buying the players for the premiership, and about time!
He's always done that mate, like i said before - Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Zenden were all bought to the club because of their proven pedigree playing in the epl.
And yet the proven successes are either scouse or foreign imports. The only real success story bought from another Premiership club (by Rafa) is Mascherano and he didn't really ever belong to Wet Sham
I know mate, that's the worrying part isn't it? He hast tried to buy domestic and it hasn't really come off although I still maintain that Crouch has been a success (no more stats please!). Still, Barry and Keane will do for me if we can get them although you can guarantee both deals will drag on to the last minute.
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:16 pmby Rush Job
Ive a feeling we may well get Keane, you can tell the clubs are talking because spurs instead of saying their captain isnt for sale have this past two days only issued "no comment" to the press and this to me is quite telling, i dont think the clubs would be talking if Ramos was doing an O'neal ( 2Om or nothing ), i dare say theres a bit of leeway and possibily a LFC player or two involved. I dont think this will drag on, i think we will find out one way or the other in the next week or so.
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:20 amby Owzat
Scottbot wrote:He hast tried to buy domestic and it hasn't really come off although I still maintain that Crouch has been a success
He has not been a complete success so you're trying to pass him off as that even though if you lower the standard that much then hardly anyone we've signed can be deemed a non success.
He's at best been ok for what we paid for him, and I will state at this point what he's done for England is irrelevant in respect of LIVERPOOL. Don't need to quote you the stats, you know they conflict with your view yet you hold your view regardless. I could therefore say Voronin has been a success, ignore stats and throw in "lack of opportunity" and you're there
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:37 pmby Toffeehater
Robbie keane and gareth barry are both proven premiership players , also the captains of their respective clubs and both want to join us . Rafa i think should have signed barry by the end of this week . As for keane , he's just a 2nd striker that we need , 10 million plus crouch should be enough if they value him at 20 million
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:37 pmby Toffeehater
dawson99 wrote:even so, lets stop making out we are poor, even if we are using players to sign players, the capital is the same and thats around 30million for 2 players, so we're hardly paupers
i think rafa is buying the players for the premiership, and about time!
exactly
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:59 pmby stmichael
can't see spurs letting keane go, especially with berbatov almost certain to go aswell. that's 50 goals you've got to replace.
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:32 pmby Toffeehater
they've got bent 
and i think they are interested in crouch, so they might sell crouch and berbatov leaving rumor has cooled down a little , so he might be staying