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Sabre wrote:

LittleHobo wrote:why are we soo far away from valenica under rafa it hurts?

we are like the opposite of his valencia team

Yes, we're far from Valencia.

They reached the CL final once, not twice, and they lost it.

Their coach left Valencia and joined Liverpool, a common thing to see when a coach does his work well, he gets promoted to a bigger club.

I remember Valencia losing under Rafa aswell. They were not invincible, and they won the league by one point IIRC, I'm sure we'll win it by 4!

Honestly, they were not above in their game. Of course yes yesterday, we were poor, but not overall.

The Grudge wrote:Last nights performance was purely down to the players on the pitch!
Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform..its a question of whether they want it more than opponents,last night they looked as if they all wanted to be somewhere else.We looked like a team with problems,im beginning to wonder if all is ok in the dressing room at times and if the players are actually commited to Raffas ideas and way of thginking.

Marsielle wanted it more from the off and deserved all 3 points..we deserved what we got,nothing!
I dont know how any of our ten outfield players could walk in to training today with their heads up,they should be ashamed of that effort.

I could'nt believe what i was watching last night,The french were first to every ball every time our players fought for nothing,it was hard to watch.Im not blaming just him but Sissoko in particular was sh.ite,he done nothong positive all night!

Overall it may not be the end of the world because we still have 4 more group matches and if we win all 13 points should be enough..but if we play like last night we dont deserve it.

In answer to the poll:D
I blame the players because they did not try enough,Benitez has a hard motivating job to do though as he is failing to get them up for it!

Owzat wrote:Where's the option to blame Crouch?

Thats a bit unfair!

If it was just that simple it would be easy mate.I do agree though Crouch has been shi'te this term,but he was only one out of a very bad 10 last night!

The Grudge wrote:Last nights performance was purely down to the players on the pitch!
Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform..its a question of whether they want it more than opponents,last night they looked as if they all wanted to be somewhere else.We looked like a team with problems,im beginning to wonder if all is ok in the dressing room at times and if the players are actually commited to Raffas ideas and way of thginking.

Marsielle wanted it more from the off and deserved all 3 points..we deserved what we got,nothing!
I dont know how any of our ten outfield players could walk in to training today with their heads up,they should be ashamed of that effort.

I could'nt believe what i was watching last night,The french were first to every ball every time our players fought for nothing,it was hard to watch.Im not blaming just him but Sissoko in particular was sh.ite,he done nothong positive all night!

Overall it may not be the end of the world because we still have 4 more group matches and if we win all 13 points should be enough..but if we play like last night we dont deserve it.

In answer to the poll:D
I blame the players because they did not try enough,Benitez has a hard motivating job to do though as he is failing to get them up for it!

I'm sorry but this is complete , "Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform",
absolute rubbish, he should be geeing them up and getting them phsyched up and ready for the game. Yesterday even in the beginning of the second half they were completely flat.

Obviously the players aren't commited to Rafa's vision, whatever the hell that might be. If I was a player I wouldn't be comitted to it either, you play a blinder of a game then get benched, in what other sport does that happen, how many games does Ronaldo miss, or Giggs for that matter or Drogba!!!!
Rotation only makes sense to Rafa and a few rose tinted fools on this forum but the vast majority are coming round to the idea that Rafa has lost the plot.
If I was Hicks or Gillet I would certainly be asking Rafa why the F&^k I just paid £26 million for a perfectly fit striker to have him warm the bench on a semi regular basis!! It's a joke, the other managers must be laughing their off at us.

heimdall wrote:It's a joke, the other managers must be laughing their off at us.

heimdall wrote:

The Grudge wrote:Last nights performance was purely down to the players on the pitch!
Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform..its a question of whether they want it more than opponents,last night they looked as if they all wanted to be somewhere else.We looked like a team with problems,im beginning to wonder if all is ok in the dressing room at times and if the players are actually commited to Raffas ideas and way of thginking.

Marsielle wanted it more from the off and deserved all 3 points..we deserved what we got,nothing!
I dont know how any of our ten outfield players could walk in to training today with their heads up,they should be ashamed of that effort.

I could'nt believe what i was watching last night,The french were first to every ball every time our players fought for nothing,it was hard to watch.Im not blaming just him but Sissoko in particular was sh.ite,he done nothong positive all night!

Overall it may not be the end of the world because we still have 4 more group matches and if we win all 13 points should be enough..but if we play like last night we dont deserve it.

In answer to the poll:D
I blame the players because they did not try enough,Benitez has a hard motivating job to do though as he is failing to get them up for it!

I'm sorry but this is complete , "Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform",
absolute rubbish, he should be geeing them up and getting them phsyched up and ready for the game. Yesterday even in the beginning of the second half they were completely flat.

Obviously the players aren't commited to Rafa's vision, whatever the hell that might be. If I was a player I wouldn't be comitted to it either, you play a blinder of a game then get benched, in what other sport does that happen, how many games does Ronaldo miss, or Giggs for that matter or Drogba!!!!
Rotation only makes sense to Rafa and a few rose tinted fools on this forum but the vast majority are coming round to the idea that Rafa has lost the plot.
If I was Hicks or Gillet I would certainly be asking Rafa why the F&^k I just paid £26 million for a perfectly fit striker to have him warm the bench on a semi regular basis!! It's a joke, the other managers must be laughing their off at us.

Lando_Griffin wrote:

heimdall wrote:

The Grudge wrote:Last nights performance was purely down to the players on the pitch!
Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform..its a question of whether they want it more than opponents,last night they looked as if they all wanted to be somewhere else.We looked like a team with problems,im beginning to wonder if all is ok in the dressing room at times and if the players are actually commited to Raffas ideas and way of thginking.

Marsielle wanted it more from the off and deserved all 3 points..we deserved what we got,nothing!
I dont know how any of our ten outfield players could walk in to training today with their heads up,they should be ashamed of that effort.

I could'nt believe what i was watching last night,The french were first to every ball every time our players fought for nothing,it was hard to watch.Im not blaming just him but Sissoko in particular was sh.ite,he done nothong positive all night!

Overall it may not be the end of the world because we still have 4 more group matches and if we win all 13 points should be enough..but if we play like last night we dont deserve it.

In answer to the poll:D
I blame the players because they did not try enough,Benitez has a hard motivating job to do though as he is failing to get them up for it!

I'm sorry but this is complete , "Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform",
absolute rubbish, he should be geeing them up and getting them phsyched up and ready for the game. Yesterday even in the beginning of the second half they were completely flat.

Obviously the players aren't commited to Rafa's vision, whatever the hell that might be. If I was a player I wouldn't be comitted to it either, you play a blinder of a game then get benched, in what other sport does that happen, how many games does Ronaldo miss, or Giggs for that matter or Drogba!!!!
Rotation only makes sense to Rafa and a few rose tinted fools on this forum but the vast majority are coming round to the idea that Rafa has lost the plot.
If I was Hicks or Gillet I would certainly be asking Rafa why the F&^k I just paid £26 million for a perfectly fit striker to have him warm the bench on a semi regular basis!! It's a joke, the other managers must be laughing their off at us.

Torres played 90 minutes you dickhead.

And he also played against Wigan.

Short memory, or just a bit thick?

heimdall wrote:

The Grudge wrote:Last nights performance was purely down to the players on the pitch!
Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform..its a question of whether they want it more than opponents,last night they looked as if they all wanted to be somewhere else.We looked like a team with problems,im beginning to wonder if all is ok in the dressing room at times and if the players are actually commited to Raffas ideas and way of thginking.

Marsielle wanted it more from the off and deserved all 3 points..we deserved what we got,nothing!
I dont know how any of our ten outfield players could walk in to training today with their heads up,they should be ashamed of that effort.

I could'nt believe what i was watching last night,The french were first to every ball every time our players fought for nothing,it was hard to watch.Im not blaming just him but Sissoko in particular was sh.ite,he done nothong positive all night!

Overall it may not be the end of the world because we still have 4 more group matches and if we win all 13 points should be enough..but if we play like last night we dont deserve it.

In answer to the poll:D
I blame the players because they did not try enough,Benitez has a hard motivating job to do though as he is failing to get them up for it!

I'm sorry but this is complete , "Raffa can only lead them to the white line and after that its up to them to perform",
absolute rubbish, he should be geeing them up and getting them phsyched up and ready for the game. Yesterday even in the beginning of the second half they were completely flat.

Obviously the players aren't commited to Rafa's vision, whatever the hell that might be. If I was a player I wouldn't be comitted to it either, you play a blinder of a game then get benched, in what other sport does that happen, how many games does Ronaldo miss, or Giggs for that matter or Drogba!!!!
Rotation only makes sense to Rafa and a few rose tinted fools on this forum but the vast majority are coming round to the idea that Rafa has lost the plot.
If I was Hicks or Gillet I would certainly be asking Rafa why the F&^k I just paid £26 million for a perfectly fit striker to have him warm the bench on a semi regular basis!! It's a joke, the other managers must be laughing their off at us.