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Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:30 amby maypaxvobiscum
voronin, babel and crouch should play and see what they can create. ever since voronin came in ive been very impressed with his moves and i feel crouch can offer us better finishing then kuyt. torres to start with crouch. voronin to replace one of them in the later stages.arbeloa at left back, babel left wing. drop riise. mash and gerrard with pennant on the right. defence can remain the same but i can see rafa giving hyypia a start somehow.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:20 amby MightyLFC
Torres and kuyt again up front peter crouch plays like he has lead in his boots.
We need to play attacking because to be honest sunderland defence is 
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I would play
Renia
Finnan Carra Agger Arbeloa
Gerrard Alonso Babel
Torres Crouch Kuyt
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:45 amby JoeTerp
thought I read Gerrard would need 7-10 days rest after playing with the painkilling shot to get his foot healed
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:58 amby MightyLFC
He said she what the doctor says
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:15 pmby maypaxvobiscum
reina
finnan
hyypia
carra
arbeloa
babel
mash
alonso
pennant/yossi
crouch/voronin
torres
anyone fancy kewell playing a part or is he injured again?
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:41 pmby tubby
Is there any chance of seeing Mascherano play. I know Rafa was going to rest him for a few games as he was tired from the Copa America but I didnt read anywhere just how long he would sit out for.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:50 pmby Rimetto_
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Sunderland won't be as easy a game as people are making out. They'll want to bounce back strongly from their shocking performance against Wigan, they're at home and Keane being Keane won't allow them to put in anything less than 110% especially against Liverpool. Also steamrolling teams isn't easy for Liverpool as we've already seen. We go 1-0 up and look to defend that lead, cost us against Chelsea-with the help of the ref of course and it almost cost us against Villa if it hadn't been for Gerrard's great free kick which shouldn't of been given in the 1st place. So from the way we've set up this year and the way Sunderland have set up, 1-0 would be a good result, however I see us scoring early and them chasing the game allowing us to take the game 2-0, but it won't be as easy as people think.
we didn't go defensive against chelsea, before the F***ing D**khead Bung taking Styles gave that penalty the game was open and both times had chances.
So to say that we were defending our lead is not true, i felt that we showed alot of promise going forward and at times played some fantastic football
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:37 pmby god_bless_john_houlding
Liverpool battered Chelsea up until we scored. After the goal, up until half time we were defensive. After half time when Chelsea had to attack, again we deffended, then their "goal" and we started to attack again. So we did go defensive and it would of worked had Styles not decided to give such a reckless dicision.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:27 pmby maypaxvobiscum
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Chelsea had to attack, again we deffended, then their "goal" and we started to attack again.
what are u talking about? if one team attacks, the other defends. how can 2 teams attack at once? theres only one ball!
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:32 pmby MightyLFC
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Liverpool battered Chelsea up until we scored. After the goal, up until half time we were defensive. After half time when Chelsea had to attack, again we deffended, then their "goal" and we started to attack again. So we did go defensive and it would of worked had Styles not decided to give such a reckless dicision.
What are you on about Liverpool attacked Chelsea all game
so i dont know what your on about !
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:22 pmby JoeTerp
You cannot say that we didn't play defensive at the begining of the 2nd half. Maybe it wasn't what we wanted, but we were certainly playing defense for longer stretches than we were on offense at the begining of the 2nd half. I saw a stat on the screen that said Chelsea hat over 70% possesion for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half, and they had more "chances" in the 2nd half as well even though I didn't think any of them were very threatening. But it wasn't like we parked the bus or were playing only to win 1-0 I think we just didn't mind if Chelsea kept meaningless possesion down a goal at anfield. And after they scored you could tell that our attack went up a notch and we started throwing more things/people at them. But back to the Sunderland topic. this game is just as important as the Chelsea match. It is a game that we should take full points from, and it doesn't really matter how we do it as long as it happens.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:27 pmby account deleted by request
JoeTerp wrote:You cannot say that we didn't play defensive at the begining of the 2nd half. Maybe it wasn't what we wanted, but we were certainly playing defense for longer stretches than we were on offense at the begining of the 2nd half. I saw a stat on the screen that said Chelsea hat over 70% possesion for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half, and they had more "chances" in the 2nd half as well even though I didn't think any of them were very threatening. But it wasn't like we parked the bus or were playing only to win 1-0 I think we just didn't mind if Chelsea kept meaningless possesion down a goal at anfield. And after they scored you could tell that our attack went up a notch and we started throwing more things/people at them. But back to the Sunderland topic. this game is just as important as the Chelsea match. It is a game that we should take full points from, and it doesn't really matter how we do it as long as it happens.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:37 pmby maypaxvobiscum
im worried about the type of state football is in especially with teams like chelsea. cheats, divers, lousy refs. its like people have forgotten fair play and integrity and adopted a win at all cost attitude. i wonder how far a newly promoted side would go to win this match. on the bright side, if we win this we will still be level on points with chelski as we have a game in hand.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:07 pmby lio
Lets not forget 3 days after this 'away' we gonna play host to toulouse (tue28th). So your thoughts as good as mine that Rafa will consider these 2 matches as one. I am therefore in the opinion that not in starting line-up for sunderland will be torres, gerard and riise. Can see voronin crouch combo and hypia as possible starters. But why worry, i am confident to received 3pts at th end of the match.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:19 pmby destro
I really hope Rafa has learnt from past mistakes and that he plays his STRONGEST possible line up for this game, worry about each game as it comes, forget Toulouse on Tuesday, after Dick Turpins performance against Chelsea it is vital we keep going from strength to strength in the league, the team for the game on Tuesday will take care of itself, we are 3 games into the season, tiredness should not even be an issue ( especially after the hill training ).
There are No easy games in this league, there is no excuse not to put out or strongest eleven ( whatever that is ? )