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mark the red wrote:come on gary, what is the problem? i just think that people on this board take things a little too seriously.  its only a forum.  i think that adding a bit of depth and quality to your arguement is fine, but stu is very aggrogant and rude in his approach to other people as he takes the view that he knows everything.

BOODIDDY wrote:Stu says barton is possibly slightly better than gerrard technically.

Well, technically (how can i put this) your a dick. You come out with some good stuff but that line is totallt absurd, joey is good but gerrard is in that world class league that the the carra thread you opened is in.

Stu dont reply to try and justify yourself on that cos you'll look even more stupid. Thats up there with hansens " you wont win anything with kids" remark.

Commenting on something you know nothing about.

I've said it a million times.

Gerrard is by far a better player.

I'm never going to dispute that.

I can use another example, Redknapp and Barton. Who's the better player? For me Barton by a mile. Better technically Redknapp by quite a bit, Redknapp and Gerrard... again Redknapp. Redknapp was a good player at best, not even class, Gerrard is WORLD CLASS!

Just because a player is world class doesn't mean every part of there game is better than everyone elses. I've used the example of Danny Murphy, his weight of through ball passes and ability to spot a pass is better than Gerrard's, Gerrard is by far better alround, but Murphy has those abilities on him without question.

Barton's weight of pass is better than Gerrard's, his first touch is as good, his ability to strike a ball is very similar and his technical style aswell as ability is very similar. Barton shades it simply on his weight of short passes and the ability to play accurate moving balls. His passes are ALWAYS easy to control, Gerrard's often aren't.

Gerrard isn't world class at everything, infact he's world class at hardly anything (maybe one or two) but he has 7 or 8 top class attributes and alot of other excellent/very good ones. In the very good attributes, i'm saying certain players in the league who are excellent players ARE MARGINALLY BETTER, I'm not making myself look stupid, i'm putting across what i can see and my judgement of a very good player.

I garentee if he moves to Arsenal or someone like that ALOT of people will change there opinions of him, just like in the past they have with Carragher, Baros and Finnan, the amount of stick i've took in the past for saying Carragher and Finnan are good players and that Baros should be sold is laughable, especially considering now Baros has been sold and Finnan and Carragher are getting the recognition they deserve... Still, i guess i just guessed how good they were...

stu_the_red wrote:

mark the red wrote:proper whoppas thread.  i think barton is too much of a loose cannon to be considered by rafa, the way he has acted at city is disgusting, the way they have stood by him over all the aggro he has caused, attacking some YTS lad with a cigar, breaking richard dunn's foot as well while barneying in thailand. the lad is trouble and for me he is not an improvement on anything we have in our midfield and would only be a fringe/rotation player when you think of us having gerrard, xabi alonso, momo sissoko, hamman who do a similar job and play a similar role to what he does.

i think barton will get found out at a big club, i dont think he is good enough to be considered for us or even the mancs.  although he is a battler and gives his all, and i respect as a player for that, but for liverpool he will rock the boat

Good player he is. Mark you're wrong about his ability mate. Simple as that, technically and tactically he's as good if not SLIGHTLY better than Gerrard.

However his attitude's a disgrace and physically he's average at best. He's also never in a million years a right sided midfielder, he's a central midfielder.

better than Gerrard?  i never read all this thread....but this comment has to go up there with your remarks about Sutton being one of England's best striker. 

Gerry.Adams wrote:Fowler
                           
                        Gerrard
                   
    kewell         Alonso Barton     Gonzales


    Riise         Agger   Carra          Finnan

                      Reina

I agree with with Stu , Steven G is world class but isnt a Ronaldinho. he is world class because he never gives in , can play unreal passes the majority of the time  and has a lethal shot  most of all he has more energy than his competitors- he is Roy Keane ten years ago but is even better.

Barton would add to our team because he is quite similar, id love a team of Bartons Gerrards Carra Fowler complimented with  talented foreigners

Final word , i think Barton would be a nice bit of business if Rafa could pull it off

stu_the_red wrote:

BOODIDDY wrote:Stu says barton is possibly slightly better than gerrard technically.

Well, technically (how can i put this) your a dick. You come out with some good stuff but that line is totallt absurd, joey is good but gerrard is in that world class league that the the carra thread you opened is in.

Stu dont reply to try and justify yourself on that cos you'll look even more stupid. Thats up there with hansens " you wont win anything with kids" remark.

Commenting on something you know nothing about.

I've said it a million times.

Gerrard is by far a better player.

I'm never going to dispute that.

I can use another example, Redknapp and Barton. Who's the better player? For me Barton by a mile. Better technically Redknapp by quite a bit, Redknapp and Gerrard... again Redknapp. Redknapp was a good player at best, not even class, Gerrard is WORLD CLASS!

Just because a player is world class doesn't mean every part of there game is better than everyone elses. I've used the example of Danny Murphy, his weight of through ball passes and ability to spot a pass is better than Gerrard's, Gerrard is by far better alround, but Murphy has those abilities on him without question.

Barton's weight of pass is better than Gerrard's, his first touch is as good, his ability to strike a ball is very similar and his technical style aswell as ability is very similar. Barton shades it simply on his weight of short passes and the ability to play accurate moving balls. His passes are ALWAYS easy to control, Gerrard's often aren't.

Gerrard isn't world class at everything, infact he's world class at hardly anything (maybe one or two) but he has 7 or 8 top class attributes and alot of other excellent/very good ones. In the very good attributes, i'm saying certain players in the league who are excellent players ARE MARGINALLY BETTER, I'm not making myself look stupid, i'm putting across what i can see and my judgement of a very good player.

I garentee if he moves to Arsenal or someone like that ALOT of people will change there opinions of him, just like in the past they have with Carragher, Baros and Finnan, the amount of stick i've took in the past for saying Carragher and Finnan are good players and that Baros should be sold is laughable, especially considering now Baros has been sold and Finnan and Carragher are getting the recognition they deserve... Still, i guess i just guessed how good they were...

well how come Joey isn't going to the world cup then?

if that was the case Sven would have spotted it ages ago.
It's not even close.

neil wrote:'Robbie Fowler is Back ' appears pretty familiar.

Robbie Fowler is Back wrote:

neil wrote:'Robbie Fowler is Back ' appears pretty familiar.

Yes i scored 171 goals for you, don't you remember?

neil wrote:'Robbie Fowler is Back ' appears pretty familiar.

Mmmm... the names John Barnes, The Nancy Boys, Luis Garcia and Hustler spring to mind aswell as dipshit, w@nker, dickhead and sad who can't take a hint, can't take rejection and consistently seeks attention.