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Ok ok but why did we lose the mancs game

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:58 am
by 116-1105728556
Now that we have all calmed down a bit, why did we lose the game.

Before the game Andy Gray talked about the game was going to be won in mid field and who dominated it.

The Mancs were going to play 4,4, 2 unless they got on top then they would go back to 4, 3, 3. Now did we lose the battle for midfield simply cos SG was off form or was it more than this.

I didn't notice the formations during the game but did notice that LFC were sitting deep in their own half and this was at the begining when they were meant to be on top.

Is it as simple as SG being off form or did we get it tactically wrong as well or was it down to other issues?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:50 am
by mynameisred
1. They have a more expensive and deep squad than us.
2. They are in excellent form Defensively.
3. They have a manger who has worked at the club for over a decade.
4. We had two debuts in critical positions on the pitch.
5. Finnans injury forced us to alter our defensive tactics, it didnt work as we missed Jamies pace at centre half and Finnans overlap.
6. Dudeks Error.
7. The game came a month too early for Morientes.
8. Somehow Keane pulled a performance of 5 years ago out of the bag against a player who by rights should be finding his way back to form after breaking a toe (Stevie G)
9. It shows how quickly Alonso has become a vital cog in the Midfield, whilst Hamman sitting in front of defence in theor allows Gerrard to get forward he cant because Didi doesnt have the range of passing that Stevie and Alonso has. If you lose Alonso that means Stevie G has to also drop off to switch between breaking and delievring the long passes. This can no longer happen, yes he is an exquisite passer but we need him around their18 yard box where he literally scares the life out of the defenders when he bears down on them.
10. Didi had his one bad game of the season and Riise wasnt on his recent game.
11. Dudek.
12. They had a man sent off which gave them the excuse to just sit on the edge of the box and be tight. We might have changed our way of playing but who would have thought the new fergie to be like the old Graham. Eh, their both ******.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:17 am
by Ciggy
We played well until they scored, and we probably would have won had we gone a goal up. 2 debuts in one of the most important games of the season, all the hype around Morientes days before took the shine off this game.
If Finnan and Alonso would have been fit we would have won this one.
Incidently its now 3 years since we last beat them at anfield they are going to be our bogey team bit like us with everton over the years.
Lets hope next season when we have some new players and a fully fit team, we will get revenge and how sweet that would be.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:20 am
by mynameisred
Hey Girl.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:24 am
by MOMO
Alonso ,we need you !!!
All of us will bless you , please come back qiuckly! :)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:26 am
by Alanay
I thought we played very well. But goalkeeping error had cost us a lot (pride, 3 points, CL place pressure, pressure at home etc......). ManU is a good team. But yesterday, we played much better than them.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:46 am
by 116-1105728556
mynameisred & cisses_gona_get_ya

One of the best posts I've read for a long while!

The papers are saying that the game has proved LFC are second rate now which I think they believe is more down to the comittment of the players than anything else.

I guess we all realise deep down that we have to do something at the back but that will take time. Not sure were SG was coming from?

This performance and the strength of the Mancs squad confirms to me that we need money if we are to remain with the big guns.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:50 am
by Ciggy
turdinator2 wrote:Not sure were SG was coming from?

??? Why whats he been saying now?
Havent read the papers and not buying any either, to see us portrayed as a disgrace, and shrek, plastered on the back again.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:42 am
by 116-1105728556
No he hasn't said anything in the papers more that he clocked up a few simple passes, sent passes that were bullets and difficult to control, had a poor game and bottled a tackle with Keane.

I've read somewhere that he was carrying an injury but not sure

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:41 pm
by Redrider
Posted: Jan. 15 2005,22:03   under Garcia

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Todays defeat was defined on 1st Jan, when Lampard took out Alonso. The fact that we have lost our playmaker has pulled Gerrard back into a less advanced mid-field role. Thus, today we were overrun in the central mid-field area and spent too much time playing out of our own half. As a result Gerrard had one of his most ineffectual games all season. There was however some comfort to be gained from the new boys, Pellegrino may lack pace, but he is cool and solid when under pressure, knows when to clear a ball and when to play it out. Morientes, when he is match fit, will bring a lot to the front line in terms of direction and leadership. Whoever we play next will feel the backlash of yesterday !!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:49 pm
by stmichael
turdinator2 wrote:Now that we have all calmed down a bit, why did we lose the game.

they scored and we didn't. :kungfu:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:00 pm
by 109-1105722616
well in lad, made up you cleared that one up for us

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:41 pm
by LiverpoolMadman
I think is about time to bring back tellac because when I see Garcia, sometimes he good but sometimes the way he plays I think my ganny plays better.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:35 am
by tel
Once they scored so cheaply, our heads dropped.

I'm also not a big fan of bringing in a player straight into the team before he's even trained. Are we expecting him to have learnt the team's style without training with them? Not sure what we were expecting from Morientes. He should have come off the bench in the 2nd half when the game was there to be one

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:10 am
by Ciggy
I wasnt aware that he was carrying an injury, this explains why he wasnt his usual self.

Liverpool skipper Steven Gerrard is a doubt for Tuesday night's FA Cup tie against Burnley due to his groin injury. He had a pain killing injection at the weekend to enable him to face the Mancs but it is unlikely that he'll be risked again so soon.