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Rafa , did he lose the plot today

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:46 pm
by lakes10
dropping 5 good players and then not knowing what  to do with the subs. he told Mellor to come off then to stay on then told him to come off , in the end someone stepped in and Rafa gave up and let mellor stay on.
i dont think he knows how much this game ment to the club and the fans.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:49 pm
by dawson99
lakes, he knew. theres so much that went wrong there i wouldnt know where tos tart. tired players, people trying too hard. bad substitutions. could go on and on. greta last 10 minutes tho, unlucky as feck not to equalize. oh well. dunno what to say really now

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:50 pm
by Ciggy
Think he tried to put Diao in the shop window for everton.
And I think youve waited for this chance to slag him off lakes.
Not his fault our players are better quality than what Moyes has, its just they didnt perform.
Hes the man for the job he wont make the same mistake next time around :;):
Not one of them would get into a Liverpool side.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:54 pm
by lakes10
cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:Think he tried to put Diao in the shop window for everton.
And I think youve waited for this chance to slag him off lakes.
Not his fault our players are better quality than what Moyes has, its just they didnt perform.
Hes the man for the job he wont make the same mistake next time around :;):
Not one of them would get into a Liverpool side.

i am not going to slag him off but i have never seen a manager muck up a sub like that before and do it so bad the someone steps in to take over , all he done was to shrugged his shoulders.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:56 pm
by Santa
Not really I wouldn't blame Rafa. Even Gerrard had a rather quiet game. Diao's game is not the most beautiful to watch but he break up more bluesh!te attack than Hamann. Our forward just don't have the pace to trouble their defence. On hindsight, we did miss Alonso's pass and Baros' pace. Josemi and Kirkland very "nervy".

If there are anything that we could do, it is that we should play our own game rather than changing the team to suit the opponent, but that's just me.

Going into my room to sob right now... :(

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:16 pm
by lakes10
Santa wrote:Not really I wouldn't blame Rafa. Even Gerrard had a rather quiet game. Diao's game is not the most beautiful to watch but he break up more bluesh!te attack than Hamann. Our forward just don't have the pace to trouble their defence. On hindsight, we did miss Alonso's pass and Baros' pace. Josemi and Kirkland very "nervy".

If there are anything that we could do, it is that we should play our own game rather than changing the team to suit the opponent, but that's just me.

Going into my room to sob right now... :(

yes but thats not his style, he take it game by game and sets out a plan and sticks to it even if its showing to be a c*** one

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:18 pm
by lakes10
we could be 10th by the end of the day i think

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:18 pm
by A.B.
Can't blame Rafa, there was hardly any effort put by most of our players. Hyypia was solid alongside Carragher but Riise and Josemi let us down. Kewell stayed quiet for most of the game but showed signs that he is waking up from his slumber while Diao is simple useless. 4-4-2 formation doesn't seem to work for us.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:19 pm
by A.B.
lakes10 wrote:we could be 10th by the end of the day i think

No, we could drop to 8th place but that's it. You're forgetting our goal difference.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:19 pm
by laza
Yes im sure those 5 players were dropped for no other reason then for us to lose today because it just makes the manager job all that more easier when he losing league games especially derby ones

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:21 pm
by 5th_Hokage
Can we blame Rafa if he keep sticking to Josemi instead of Finnan? What did he see in Josemi to start him in so many games?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:23 pm
by mistyred
:laugh:  Slapstick loves it. :;):

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:23 pm
by lakes10
A.B. wrote:
lakes10 wrote:we could be 10th by the end of the day i think

No, we could drop to 8th place but that's it. You're forgetting our goal difference.

sorry yes you are right

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:24 pm
by mrcool2003
lakes, did you actually see the game?

you're going on about the negatives, but there was positives, we played pretty well today imo, we were abit unlucky, chances just over the bar and just the ball didnt run in the box near the end, so i think we were very unlucky not to get a draw out of the match

stop complaining when we lose and cheer when we win, we played well today, just abit harshly done by not to get a draw, thats the postitive thing, plus baros, cissie and gracia weren't playing and we weren't far away, so shows you how good we are playing

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:24 pm
by A.B.
Can we blame Rafa if he keep sticking to Josemi instead of Finnan? What did he see in Josemi to start him in so many games?

I guess you could but can you blame Rafa for Josemi's yellow card? No you can't.