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Baros to barca? - Id sell him
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:23 amby Tzvi
Would you let Baros go to Barca?
I would, baros is premiship experienced striker who cannot score consistantly in the premiership. Henry can score in the premiship and cant on the international scence whereas Baros obviously can.
The contrast betweeen Henry and Baros is vitle to the reason why we should sell Baros. Baros has had ample opportunities in the premiership, and has not delievered anything. His playing style suits the slow, cautious international football scene. Whereas Henry style that obviously suits the quick physical premiership does not suit the international scence (look at his euro goalscoring). Baros does not suit the premiership and with Cisse obviously going to make a huge impact, would it be the right time to sell Baros, yes. In my opinionBaros would we sold at higher price than hes worth, because of his euro. We can afford to cash in on him, any buy a right midfilder on central midfilder to bolster the rest of the squad.
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:27 amby Dalglish
I suspect i'm going to come in for some stick here but I agree with the comments above except to say I'd take no less than £15 million for Baros.
I've also been very disappointed in Baros's various comments post Houllier and he's obviously forcing the issue with Benitez after his success at Euro 2004. He is far too vocal in my opinion and only too happy to give ambiguous quotes to teh press about moving on and his dislike for Houllier. 
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:38 amby barnesrush
i think some of his comments are naive at worst. im sure as a youngster he obviously had barcelona as one of the ultimate teams he would like to play for rather than us and as much as i wish that was a crime, its not.
he should be able to be fairly effective in the prem tho and id like to see him stay although he wont be happy sitting on the bench. i wouldnt like to swap him for a midfielder tho and would like to see a saviola or similar in return.
he scored 12 goals in his first full season without playing all that often so id like to see a lot more of him here
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:46 amby Dalglish
barnesrush wrote:i think some of his comments are naive at worst. im sure as a youngster he obviously had barcelona as one of the ultimate teams he would like to play for rather than us and as much as i wish that was a crime, its not.
he should be able to be fairly effective in the prem tho and id like to see him stay although he wont be happy sitting on the bench. i wouldnt like to swap him for a midfielder tho and would like to see a saviola or similar in return.
he scored 12 goals in his first full season without playing all that often so id like to see a lot more of him here
Fair comments Barenesrush but your comments regarding not being happy sitting on the bench must be a concern.
I've watched Liverpool often subsitute or leave Owen on the bench many times but you don't hear him griping to the pres about it
Even Fowler in the treble winning season was visibly gutted to be left on the bench for the FA Cup final and was subbed in the UEFA Cup Final.
Baros had a very good Euro 2004 as did many players who hadn't played much the previous season. However the original comments regarding his game suiting the slower build up and International style is correct in my opinion and whilst he is well capable of adapting the Prem style he seems reluctant to want to be considered as a squad player.
Walk On ...
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:06 amby barnesrush
unfortunately bit of a sticky situation really just always ashame to let go of a young talent like that eh. it would be ashame if we lost le tallec, baros and imo cheyrou in one season.
(dont start about bruno!!)
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:18 amby adayinthelife
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:33 amby madred
Opinions please? Once a Liverpool player says that its a dream to play for another club do you still hold him in high regard??
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:36 amby Dalglish
Some good points there mate and I'd be disappointed to lose him too.
However his constant bleating to the media will not have endeared him to the fans and I actually don't believe it's made his chances any greater even without GH at the helm.
Benitez I'm sure will be aware of Milan's naive comments and if the right offer came along then I maintain he will sell.
It's one thing joining a club (Barca) and declaring your boyhood allegiance but it's quite another drooling over a club before you have gone there !!!
I don't think Benitez wil have lost any sleep over Baros's comments but he will want to make it crystal clear to the players that grievances and aspirations are to be kept within the team and not aired to the gutter press
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:36 amby barnesrush
not as high but you have to respect that were not the best team in eurpoe anymore. less dissapointed in foriegners than local lads tho of course
that was to madred
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:38 amby barnesrush
eurpoe???
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:26 amby mistyred
If Baros wants out then sell him,Any player who cannot give 150% due to selfish aspirations should be allowed to leave.
He is obviously playing the managers hand to see if he is a valied aquasition to the club ,BUT i cannot not see his tedious and extremely adalecent comments coming to anything more than a hinderance to his own limited time at LFC.
He is no doubt a talented player but i would rather a player who is happy and non-selfish towards the club playing good football for LFC on aregular basis than a bighead who can only play at international level.
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:56 amby LFC #1
it would be very tempting if a bid of 15mil + was offered.
Baros is a good player, but Owen and Cisse are better IMO, and I think these two will be starting.
Baros may get sick of sitting on the bench, but if an injury to Owen or Cisse occurs then he will ger plenty of game time.
The problem with selling him, is we would need to buy another striker happy to play a role as a subsitution, as Cisse, Owen and Pongolle isn't enough, we need 4 strikers, in case of injuries.
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:04 amby begintoend
I prefer not to sell him as it is important to have 4 strikers in your team.
Baros has my sympathy in not getting his deserved starting chance for the team. Face it... Not many players in the world will stick to the club for very long. One who did and is an absolute star was Maldini. I am sure Baros gives 100% or more if he gets to play often. His commitment was never a doubt for me. I agree with Baros that he needs consistent starts and else, a new club will suit him better. His comments are fair. Didn't Gerrard and Owen make similar comments over the club's future.
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:38 pmby stapo1000
Tzvi wrote:Would you let Baros go to Barca?
I would, baros is premiship experienced striker who cannot score consistantly in the premiership. Henry can score in the premiship and cant on the international scence whereas Baros obviously can.
The contrast betweeen Henry and Baros is vitle to the reason why we should sell Baros. Baros has had ample opportunities in the premiership, and has not delievered anything. His playing style suits the slow, cautious international football scene. Whereas Henry style that obviously suits the quick physical premiership does not suit the international scence (look at his euro goalscoring). Baros does not suit the premiership and with Cisse obviously going to make a huge impact, would it be the right time to sell Baros, yes. In my opinionBaros would we sold at higher price than hes worth, because of his euro. We can afford to cash in on him, any buy a right midfilder on central midfilder to bolster the rest of the squad.
Very good post pal. when i read the title i was thinkin ''this lads a bollix'' but you got me thinkin there big time. maybe his international form is just due to the pace of the game etc. many players play well in international football but not club level. his euro 04 campaign raised baros' price by bout 10 mil so maybe we should cash in.
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Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:44 pmby XSD
begintoend wrote:I prefer not to sell him as it is important to have 4 strikers in your team.
Baros has my sympathy in not getting his deserved starting chance for the team. Face it... Not many players in the world will stick to the club for very long. One who did and is an absolute star was Maldini. I am sure Baros gives 100% or more if he gets to play often. His commitment was never a doubt for me. I agree with Baros that he needs consistent starts and else, a new club will suit him better. His comments are fair. Didn't Gerrard and Owen make similar comments over the club's future.
You think he'll get more starts in a line up with Ronaldinho, Larrson and Saviola than he will competing with Owen, Cisse and Pongolle? :P