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Suarez - Shortlists for the fifa ballon d’or
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:10 amby Dundalk
The following 23 men (in alphabetical order) are in contention for the FIFA Ballon d’Or 2011:
Éric Abidal (France), Sergio Agüero (Argentina), Karim Benzema (France), Iker Casillas (Spain), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Dani Alves (Brazil), Samuel Eto’o (Cameroon), Cesc Fàbregas (Spain), Diego Forlán (Uruguay), Andrés Iniesta (Spain), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Thomas Müller (Germany), Nani (Portugal), Neymar (Brazil), Mesut Özil (Germany), Gerard Piqué (Spain), Wayne Rooney (England), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany), Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands), Luis Suárez (Uruguay), David Villa (Spain), Xabi Alonso (Spain), Xavi (Spain).
Nice to see he is being recognised for stuff like this. A truly gifted football lets hope he just keeps getting better and better.
The question is though, does Dundreamin think he will win it over Messi? 
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:26 pmby jimmy brighton
Dundalk wrote:The question is though, does Dundreamin think he will win it over Messi?
I doubt it. Messi will probably win it for the 3rd year running. The only time one of our lot has won it was Michael Owen in 2001. Keegan won it in '78 but by then he was a Hamburg player. Kenny finished 2nd in '83 and Stevie came 3rd in '05 and '08.
If Luiz keeps going the way he has I think he'll have a good shout next year.
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:33 pmby maguskwt
jimmy brighton wrote:Dundalk wrote:The question is though, does Dundreamin think he will win it over Messi?
I doubt it. Messi will probably win it for the 3rd year running. The only time one of our lot has won it was Michael Owen in 2001. Keegan won it in '78 but by then he was a Hamburg player. Kenny finished 2nd in '83 and Stevie came 3rd in '05 and '08.
If Luiz keeps going the way he has I think he'll have a good shout next year.
Owen won the European Ballon D'or, this one's the FIFA Ballon D'or which is the combined FIFA player of the year and European Ballon D'or.
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:42 pmby jimmy brighton
maguskwt wrote:jimmy brighton wrote:Dundalk wrote:The question is though, does Dundreamin think he will win it over Messi?
I doubt it. Messi will probably win it for the 3rd year running. The only time one of our lot has won it was Michael Owen in 2001. Keegan won it in '78 but by then he was a Hamburg player. Kenny finished 2nd in '83 and Stevie came 3rd in '05 and '08.
If Luiz keeps going the way he has I think he'll have a good shout next year.
Owen won the European Ballon D'or, this one's the FIFA Ballon D'or which is the combined FIFA player of the year and European Ballon D'or.
It's the same thing now. The two were merged in 2010. The results as far as I know have been identical along the way anyway.
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:58 pmby maguskwt
jimmy brighton wrote:The results as far as I know have been identical along the way anyway.
Not necessarily... When there were two, the Fifa world player of the year was considered the more prestigeous of the two because it selects the best in the world whereas the Ballon D'or only selects the best in Europe. What I'm trying to say is that the Ballon D'or that Owen won is not essentially the same as the Fifa Ballon D'or now because the latter now is considered from all over the world same as the Fifa world player of the year previously... for example, that year Owen won the Ballon D'or but Figo won Fifa World player of the year.
PS. Rather it is more accurate to say that today's Fifa Ballon D'or is essentially the same as the Fifa World player of the year previously.
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:59 pmby stmichael
the funniest thing is wenger is nominated for coach of the year 
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:15 pmby ethanr
stmichael wrote:the funniest thing is wenger is nominated for coach of the year
I saw that. And I laughed.
Luis was a big reason Uruguay went so far at the world cup, and an even bigger reason they won the Copa America. He did well for Liverpool at the end of last year as well, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him make the top 10 list, but there seems to be so much bias in it. Rooney made the list again and he was absolute garbage last year.. He had 1 good goal against city and then a bunch of pens.
Dundreamin, I think that's your turn to argue your point. Final 2 messi vs. Suarez?
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:30 pmby andy_g
only 8 of the barca team then?
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:37 pmby The Good Yank
Umm, how in the hell is Eric Abidal on that list?
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:58 pmby Fowler_E7
The Good Yank wrote:Umm, how in the hell is Eric Abidal on that list?
Sympathy vote because of his return from cancer or was it a tumour. What i wanna know is how the hell is Wenger down for the coach of the year and Rooney for player of the year? Arsenal have been a joke since Febuary and Rooney was terrible for the 1st half of the season 
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:00 pmby Kash_Mountain
Nice if Suarez get's it, but will probably go to the Messi.
How did Shrek get on the list ?
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:01 pmby The Good Yank
Fowler_E7 wrote:The Good Yank wrote:Umm, how in the hell is Eric Abidal on that list?
Sympathy vote because of his return from cancer or was it a tumour.
Ahh. Alright then. I feel like a prlck now.
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:07 pmby Roger Red Hat
The Good Yank wrote:Fowler_E7 wrote:The Good Yank wrote:Umm, how in the hell is Eric Abidal on that list?
Sympathy vote because of his return from cancer or was it a tumour.
Ahh. Alright then. I feel like a prlck now.
nobody on here thinks you a pr!ck... well not for that comment anyway.
suarez wont get it, he's too volatile. For all his good bits he has a dark side. Diving around, swearing and carrying on.
Messi is the blue eyed boy.
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:31 pmby Fowler_E7
And because Messi fully deserves it, Ronaldo is the only player close to his level right now
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:40 pmby jimmy brighton
maguskwt wrote:jimmy brighton wrote:The results as far as I know have been identical along the way anyway.
Not necessarily... When there were two, the Fifa world player of the year was considered the more prestigeous of the two because it selects the best in the world whereas the Ballon D'or only selects the best in Europe. What I'm trying to say is that the Ballon D'or that Owen won is not essentially the same as the Fifa Ballon D'or now because the latter now is considered from all over the world same as the Fifa world player of the year previously... for example, that year Owen won the Ballon D'or but Figo won Fifa World player of the year.
PS. Rather it is more accurate to say that today's Fifa Ballon D'or is essentially the same as the Fifa World player of the year previously.
I stand corrected. Got the two mixed up. Might be to do with this flu I've got!!