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Carling cup - 4th round draw

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:27 pm
by red37
Tottenham vs Liverpool


Sunderland v Blackburn Rovers
Arsenal v Wigan Athletic
Chelsea v Burnley
Swansea City v Watford
Manchester United v Queens Park Rangers
Stoke City v Rotherham United
Brighton & Hove Albion or Derby v Leeds United

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:32 pm
by account deleted by request
Sorry Red I should have posted it in here mate....... I didn't think anyone else was really interested :)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:33 pm
by skatesy
I figure Tottenham is going to come out with their full squad for this. May be a tough one..

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:36 pm
by jkop
A Liverpool win for me, and come on the QPR !!!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:41 pm
by red37
s@int wrote:Sorry Red I should have posted it in here mate....... I didn't think anyone else was really interested :)

Its alright - its me age!

Poor old League Cup - it gets knocked from pillar to post and isn't sexy enough anymore, nobody loves it.... unless we go on to lift the thing of course  :D

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:08 pm
by The Manhattan Project
We'll beat Spuds.



PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:49 pm
by tubby
Unless we are in the final I dont give a :censored: about this cup. Rafa should continue using reserves until the semis.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:02 pm
by SupitsJonF
bavlondon wrote:Unless we are in the final I dont give a :censored: about this cup. Rafa should continue using reserves until the semis.

Reserves vs a Tottenham starting XI, that should be close.

Derby County just beat QPR.... I don't think they are winning anything lol.  Derby is terrible.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:49 pm
by Owzat
While it runs at the same time as the CL of course it will be given tertiary importance behind the CL and the Premiership - hopefully not in that order mr Benitez. It is a bit of a farce, the big clubs play their kids and if they do progress it makes a mockery of the competition.

All the talk preseason of kids on the bench for the Premiership with seven subs :-

vs Bitters : Diego, Lucas, Aurelio, Hyypia, Agger, Babel
vs Stoke : Diego, Benayoun, Mascherano, Lucas, Agger, Degen, Babel
vs Man Utd : Diego, Dossena, Torres, Gerrard, N'Gog, Hyypia, Babel
vs villa : Diego, Agger, Babel, El Zhar, Aurelio, N'Gog, Benayoun
vs Boro : Diego, Agger, N'Gog, Plessis, Aurelio, Babel
vs Sunderland : Diego, Agger, Aurelio, N'Gog, Skrtel, Alonso, El Zhar

Strange that El Zhar's fallen out of favour, is he injured?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:14 pm
by JoeTerp
Owzat wrote:While it runs at the same time as the CL of course it will be given tertiary importance behind the CL and the Premiership - hopefully not in that order mr Benitez. It is a bit of a farce, the big clubs play their kids and if they do progress it makes a mockery of the competition.

All the talk preseason of kids on the bench for the Premiership with seven subs :-

vs Bitters : Diego, Lucas, Aurelio, Hyypia, Agger, Babel
vs Stoke : Diego, Benayoun, Mascherano, Lucas, Agger, Degen, Babel
vs Man Utd : Diego, Dossena, Torres, Gerrard, N'Gog, Hyypia, Babel
vs villa : Diego, Agger, Babel, El Zhar, Aurelio, N'Gog, Benayoun
vs Boro : Diego, Agger, N'Gog, Plessis, Aurelio, Babel
vs Sunderland : Diego, Agger, Aurelio, N'Gog, Skrtel, Alonso, El Zhar

Strange that El Zhar's fallen out of favour, is he injured?

Lucas, mascherano, and Babel came back from olympics and we bought Riera

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:54 pm
by Zidane
Should be a good game hope we come out on top.  Gonna be a tough one to swallow for tottenham when they lose.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:45 am
by WhIpLaSh
This wouldn't even be a fair contest if it was starting 11 v starting 11.

I still reckon the 2nd squad could run the spuds ragged.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:34 pm
by Owzat
JoeTerp wrote:
Owzat wrote:While it runs at the same time as the CL of course it will be given tertiary importance behind the CL and the Premiership - hopefully not in that order mr Benitez. It is a bit of a farce, the big clubs play their kids and if they do progress it makes a mockery of the competition.

All the talk preseason of kids on the bench for the Premiership with seven subs :-

vs Bitters : Diego, Lucas, Aurelio, Hyypia, Agger, Babel
vs Stoke : Diego, Benayoun, Mascherano, Lucas, Agger, Degen, Babel
vs Man Utd : Diego, Dossena, Torres, Gerrard, N'Gog, Hyypia, Babel
vs villa : Diego, Agger, Babel, El Zhar, Aurelio, N'Gog, Benayoun
vs Boro : Diego, Agger, N'Gog, Plessis, Aurelio, Babel
vs Sunderland : Diego, Agger, Aurelio, N'Gog, Skrtel, Alonso, El Zhar

Strange that El Zhar's fallen out of favour, is he injured?


Lucas, mascherano, and Babel came back from olympics and we bought Riera

I was lead to believe by a number of people that we'd see some of the kids on the bench, real kids not multimillion pound signings. Nemeth and all that lot, the ones that come out for the Carling Cup and not just the Olympians who cost a packet - the names you cite cost around £40m between the four

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:36 pm
by JoeTerp
Owzat wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:
Owzat wrote:While it runs at the same time as the CL of course it will be given tertiary importance behind the CL and the Premiership - hopefully not in that order mr Benitez. It is a bit of a farce, the big clubs play their kids and if they do progress it makes a mockery of the competition.

All the talk preseason of kids on the bench for the Premiership with seven subs :-

vs Bitters : Diego, Lucas, Aurelio, Hyypia, Agger, Babel
vs Stoke : Diego, Benayoun, Mascherano, Lucas, Agger, Degen, Babel
vs Man Utd : Diego, Dossena, Torres, Gerrard, N'Gog, Hyypia, Babel
vs villa : Diego, Agger, Babel, El Zhar, Aurelio, N'Gog, Benayoun
vs Boro : Diego, Agger, N'Gog, Plessis, Aurelio, Babel
vs Sunderland : Diego, Agger, Aurelio, N'Gog, Skrtel, Alonso, El Zhar

Strange that El Zhar's fallen out of favour, is he injured?


Lucas, mascherano, and Babel came back from olympics and we bought Riera

I was lead to believe by a number of people that we'd see some of the kids on the bench, real kids not multimillion pound signings. Nemeth and all that lot, the ones that come out for the Carling Cup and not just the Olympians who cost a packet - the names you cite cost around £40m between the four

I was just saying why El Zhar wasn't in the mix any more. It was because he wouldn't have been in the mix from the start if we had those 4 from the start of the season.  I think it was more that the people who thought Rafa was going to use his two extra slots for kids instead of including more of his fringe, must not have known Rafa very well.

I was however, very disapointed with the bench against Everton. Why was there a need for Hyypia, Agger, AND Aurelio? Especially when Carra could play right back in a pinch, and Arbeloa could play left back. That means that you only need 1 defensive sub and you can pretty much cover any injuries that happen. And as far as "going defensive" to help hold on, I can only see us ever taking off one midfielder/striker for a defender.  We are never that desperate to hand out, and Rafa would much rather kill a game off by getting that 2nd or 3rd goal than putting in an extra defender.