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Torres - He doesn't need a strike partner
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:25 pmby Scottbot
Tonight proved me for me what i've figured for a while. That Torres is FAR more effective when he plays upfront on his own. He was absolutely fantastic tonight and he played like the Torres we see week in week out for Liverpool. We are so lucky to have him. He was absolutely immense. It's so rare to get a forward who has the mobility, quickness, engine, skill, intelligence and work-rate to run an ENTIRE back four ragged all by HIMSELF. He ties up all four defenders at various stages of the game. He is so much better when he has the space to roam and doesn't have to worry about stepping on the toes of a strike partner. We are all talking about who to buy to complement him but really we need someone to come in and spell him.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:26 pmby The Manhattan Project
Needs two fast wingers to provide crosses.
Speed down the flanks!
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:28 pmby NANNY RED
Scottbot wrote:Tonight proved me for me what i've figured for a while. That Torres is FAR more effective when he plays upfront on his own. He was absolutely fantastic tonight and he played like the Torres we see week in week out for Liverpool. We are so lucky to have him. He was absolutely immense. It's so rare to get a forward who has the mobility, quickness, engine, skill, intelligence and work-rate to run an ENTIRE back four ragged all by HIMSELF. He ties up all four defenders at various stages of the game. He is so much better when he has the space to roam and doesn't have to worry about stepping on the toes of a strike partner. We are all talking about who to buy to complement him but really we need someone to come in and spell him.
Great shout
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:33 pmby Ace Ventura
He was superb and i am now unhappy with him bein brought off, this game he didnt desrve it and it made even worse sense than usual, at least he never got injured and he took his goal brilliantly, made up for him and i had a paul mckenna on him first goal at 9/2 so keeps me happy.
Well in nando lad.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:38 pmby kunilson
i think a striker who can help him out at times, especially when he's being doubled up on won't do any harm.....as long as he doesn't have to compromise his game too much for that other striker. Its just about finding someone he has that good an understanding with........
maybe we don't need to because him and gerrard seem to have found a good relationship but when the going gets tough gerrard slips back into the midfield battle and leaves Torres being isolated battling the defence, and a better one tonight maybe woulda caused him problems....
Don't think we should give up looking for a strike partner, but the situation right now where gerrard plays off him is not the worst...add another creative player to the team and its even better
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:38 pmby JC_81
I used to think Drogba was the best in the business at playing the lone striker role, but Torres is even better. Totally different style but a better player.
I reckon we probably have about 2 seasons left to win the title before Gerrard and Carra are past their peak. Similarly if we go another 2 seasons without winning a major trophy (title or CL) then people like Reina or even Torres might want a new challenge. We desperately need to get the right players in quickly to compliment the likes of Gerrard and Torres before the whole side needs rebuilding. Possibly 2 quality attacking players would do it.
I'd favour a classy winger and a striker. With Crouch going, with Kuyt playing wide and with Voronin being very average, we would be royally fu.cked if Torres was to pick up a bad injury, so we need to bring in more quality up front, even if it isn't someone to necessarily play regularly with Torres.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:40 pmby HacksawJimDuggin
Scottbot wrote:Tonight proved me for me what i've figured for a while. That Torres is FAR more effective when he plays upfront on his own. He was absolutely fantastic tonight and he played like the Torres we see week in week out for Liverpool. We are so lucky to have him. He was absolutely immense. It's so rare to get a forward who has the mobility, quickness, engine, skill, intelligence and work-rate to run an ENTIRE back four ragged all by HIMSELF. He ties up all four defenders at various stages of the game. He is so much better when he has the space to roam and doesn't have to worry about stepping on the toes of a strike partner. We are all talking about who to buy to complement him but really we need someone to come in and spell him.
Correct.
Superb & dominant. Top class performance from a top class player. No one could get near him tonight.
I had a £10 on him for 1st scorer @ 5/1. Thank you very much nando 
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:48 pmby Scottbot
john craig wrote:I used to think Drogba was the best in the business at playing the lone striker role, but Torres is even better. Totally different style but a better player.
Agree on that mate. Drogba is an immense player (despite being a complete ar..sehole) who plays the lone striker role superbly. He tends to do it with his sheer physical presence where as Torres using a mixture of speed, strength and VERY intelligent running. We have got to get the right supporting cast in to help this guy win us a title in the next couple of years. Not Downing, not Bentley, Not Reira but GENUINE quality.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:51 pmby metalhead
Scottbot wrote:Tonight proved me for me what i've figured for a while. That Torres is FAR more effective when he plays upfront on his own. He was absolutely fantastic tonight and he played like the Torres we see week in week out for Liverpool. We are so lucky to have him. He was absolutely immense. It's so rare to get a forward who has the mobility, quickness, engine, skill, intelligence and work-rate to run an ENTIRE back four ragged all by HIMSELF. He ties up all four defenders at various stages of the game. He is so much better when he has the space to roam and doesn't have to worry about stepping on the toes of a strike partner. We are all talking about who to buy to complement him but really we need someone to come in and spell him.
Agreed scott
had a fantastic game tonight!
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:54 pmby Ace Ventura
john craig wrote:I used to think Drogba was the best in the business at playing the lone striker role, but Torres is even better. Totally different style but a better player.
I reckon we probably have about 2 seasons left to win the title before Gerrard and Carra are past their peak. Similarly if we go another 2 seasons without winning a major trophy (title or CL) then people like Reina or even Torres might want a new challenge. We desperately need to get the right players in quickly to compliment the likes of Gerrard and Torres before the whole side needs rebuilding. Possibly 2 quality attacking players would do it.
I'd favour a classy winger and a striker. With Crouch going, with Kuyt playing wide and with Voronin being very average, we would be royally fu.cked if Torres was to pick up a bad injury, so we need to bring in more quality up front, even if it isn't someone to necessarily play regularly with Torres.
Without behing biased and sounding like we are being blinded in our opinions by Torres being a Liverpool player without question alongside Drogba he is the best in the world, i like Adebayor as well, but to occupy a whole defence as a lone striker these two are imo head and shoulders above the rest,
Rafa has pulled off a masterstroke in getting him, and unlike the Chelsea player Torres seems to be far far more loyal and level headed, he seems to be humble and genuine, i am so so happy that we got him and not one of the other mercenaries.
He is fast, decent in the air, strong, tow footed and has desire and a will to win and a proper team working mentality, if there is any player in the world that we could swap with Torres who would make a similar impact name him.
WE ARE SO SO LUCKY.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:57 pmby Scottbot
Ace Ventura wrote:if there is any player in the world that we could swap with Torres who would make a similar impact name him.
And the room went quiet.....
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pmby Alonso14
Him and Gerrard both deserve to win the Premiership. They both have the hunger and desire to win it, we just need to find the right players to compliment them some time soon.
Both have come into their prime.
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:01 pmby Scottbot
You should be out on the pop mate!
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:02 pmby JC_81
And still you will hear pundits rabbit on about Ronaldo being the best player in the world. He didn't produce in the CL semis or final and he didn't produce in the EUROs when his team were up against it. Once again the only impact he had was against lesser teams who Portugal bullied.
Torres has scored the winner in the final of the EUROs. Although that alone doesn't make you the best player in the world, that coupled with his general play for Spain in this tournament and for Liverpool this season surely puts him up there and certainly ahead of Ronaldo imo.
