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Inept defending - We need a centre back now
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:31 pmby stmichael
having watched the leeds game it just reaffirms to me that we desperately need a new centre back. hyypia is still a class act but lacks pace. henchoz seems to be deteriorating. we need a young british centre half with plenty of pace. someone like dawson of forest or gabbidon of cardiff. going forward we played really well i thought and should have won the game. stevie g world-class once again. it's just fortunate that newcastle didn't win otherwise they'd be getting away from us.
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:54 pmby JBG
I would replace both centre halves at this stage.
Also, Dawson and Gabbidon won't improve us. We need to spend £20-25million on two centre halves to make us competitive and unfortunately we simply don't have that kind of cash available.
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:01 pmby The_Rock
or just bring back babbel.....................
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:12 pmby big al
StMichael you said the magic word PACE that's the key to winning the premiership and we have very little of that particular comodity. But don't be too disheartened neither has Newcastle, Chelsea or any of the other pretenders to the top two teams. Arsenal scored two goals on Saturday by playing at such blistering pace linesmen could'nt keep up. Last week RVN scored a clear offside goal when Man U turned up the PACE against Man City. We have players equal in skill to them as does Chelsea, difference is they do it all faster. Want the Premiership get players of equal ability but 10% faster.
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:56 pmby shilton_red
Two much washing of dirty washing in public has effected the confidence of the club and players . To much slagging from past players in public . Its bound to effect players confidence to be slagged week in week out by your own fans .Liverpool was always well known for keeping its problems private within house this is now not the case and it has effected the club .To an extent Man Utd dont let things out , and are not critical of players or staff like some of us have been . Look how theyve supported Rio Ferdinand and Ferguson we know they have been silly but they wont admit it ever .They wont knock Fergie how some of us will knock Houllier . There are lessons to be learned here .
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:00 pmby big al
Shilton_red i beg to differ some ManU fan was on sky last week saying Fergie had lost the plot, at least theres some substance to are complaints!
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:48 pmby Thor Viking
Get Ayala from Valencia - NOW ! Then you won`t have to meet him if you`re playing Valencia for the UEFA cup.Also we have som decent young players in Norway that are quite unexpensive ! You have already had a man looking at young players here - I don`t remember his name though !
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:25 pmby bpm1976
I personally think our 2 centre backs a majority of the time defend very well, except when played at right back. The link up play from Smith and Viduka yesterday was class, how I would like them both here! Hey, now theres one for ya GH! Although we need a centre back more for competition as they are both automatic choices when fit, who is really pushing them? Traore? Biscan? never will make the grade.
Ayala would be an ideal signing, but I think if he was coming to England it would be to 1 of the big 3 and not us, Mexes or Hofland may be more realistic.
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:37 pmby shilton_red
We cant change things now , there is no transfer window . We must manage with what weve got but its the same for all.One or two Utd fans may be critical of Fergie but not many , where as many Liverpool fans have chosen to chastise Houllier in public .
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:46 amby JBG
Our centre backs are very good defenders but there is simply no pace there.
As for Babbel have you not seen Blackburn play lately? Their defence is now one of the worst in the Premiership and Babbel is as guilty as anyone in the Blackburn back four.
His illness robbed him of his pace and sharpness, its as simple as that.
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:59 amby shilton_red
We sold a tall quick lad to Swindon whos now doing very well down there . Name of Andy Nicholas . Hes tall and gangly but hes good on the ball and is very quick . They are mad on him down in Wiltshire .
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:11 pmby Starbridge42
For the most part our defence is sound. Pace, while important, isn't the only thing a player needs beside skill. I've seen slow players beat faster, more skillful players by positioning themselves appropriately. Hyperia gave away the goal Viduka scored by gently heading the ball to Alan Smith's chest, he then lobbbed it over the top to big 'dukes (as he's called in Australia) who scored an easy goal. That whole passage could have been avoided if Hyperia and his fellow defenders had positioned themselves better.
But hey pace is really important too!
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:23 pmby mrcool2003
houllier gets slagged off cause he shouldn't be liverpool manager, hes been in the job 5 years, no nearer to winnign the league
HOUllier p#ss off and take your stupid excuses with you you french tw#t!
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:30 pmby shilton_red
If he wins the eufa cup and 4th place hes done ok . Next season will be the test . Whether he can win his targets is yet to be seen mind . If he gets 4th id keep him on . We must get rid of the dead wood in the squad .
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:16 pmby Cool Hand Luke
The issue of pace at the back has been there for a long time. When we played deep it wasn't exposed as much so no one pointed it out but now we hold a higher line everone is banging on about it. I don't think we need to get rid of Hyypia aswell, for the time been his experience and ball playing ability can be useful alongside a quicker less experienced defender.
I was gutted that we lost out on Boumsong, he and Hyypia would have been a great partnership. I can't see a relastic target, one player that I have mentioned is Antony Gardner of Tottenham.