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by **akumaface** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:30 pm

So has anyone heard anything about Alves? Or is he really that good and is he made out for the EPL?

by **tubby** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:31 pm

The Red Baron wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Pennant accepting a "better that nothing" tag.

Why not? Iwould assume he is used to tags seeing he had one on his leg for long enough.The lad is a waster, he had the oppurtunities many young footballers dream about and blew it.
I he did ever come to Liverpool,and God forbid he did it, would be one name my lad would never get on his shirt.

Id like to think Rafa and Paco as well as the players will be able to sort out his attitude problems but if hes coming to Liverpool chances are hell sort them out on his own cos surly he wont get a bigger chance than this on a plate.

At least this guy is talanted and hes English which is a bonus. But the most important thing is that we all know that he can play in the Premiership. If only he had stayed on the right road he coud have been crying his eys out with Henry an co last week. Hed be worth double figures for sure if he was still at Arsenal. Its just that Arsene Venger couldnt control him. Wenger cant control people too well - look at Ian Wright.

Benitez is strict and up till now its worked and id like to belive he command the respect of every single player ( perhaps maybe not Cisse as hes knob)

by **welsh wizzard** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:34 pm

What a load of wankkkkkkkkkkkk, this should be in rumour mill anyway how many times ave i been shifted from here to there.
Pennent is an average player, wasn't good enough for Arsenal not good enough for us simple as that. We are hoping to challenge next season then we need better quality on the right than pennent. Guily yeah like the looks for a short term deal.

by **The Red Baron** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:40 pm

Why take the chance? If he couldnt see the potential at Arsenal he is obviously a fuc.ing idiot.We want players who want to play for Liverpool for the right reasons not someone who uses it to escape a fuc.ed up situation of his own creation.

by **tubby** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:42 pm

welsh wizzard wrote:What a load of wankkkkkkkkkkkk, this should be in rumour mill anyway how many times ave i been shifted from here to there.
Pennent is an average player, wasn't good enough for Arsenal not good enough for us simple as that. We are hoping to challenge next season then we need better quality on the right than pennent. Guily yeah like the looks for a short term deal.

Im still waiting for Joaquin and Ronaldinho to sign Wizard

by **JC_81** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:14 pm

ivor_the_injun wrote:I've just had it on good authority (the same source that gave news of Fowler's transfer to me the day before it happened) that we are soon to announce the signings of both Pennant AND Giuly, and both deals combined total just £7.5m.

The Pennant deal is on standby until the Giuly deal is sewn up. We've agreed a fee with Barca (approx £3.5m) for Giuly, and LFC are now trying to get him signed up so that we can close the Pennant deal.

If the Giuly deal goes dead, so does the Pennant deal. The other options we're looking at for right mid (Simao and SWP) are £10m+, which means we won't be able to afford Pennant as well.

Not doubting your source or anything Ivor, but surely we don't need to bring in 2 right sided players? I'd be very surprised.

With Gerrard geting player of the year on the right side, and Sissoko and Alonso seemingly undroppable, I would imagine we only need one right midfielder for games in which Gerrard is required for the centre. If we were to get Giuly and Pennant, I couldn't see Pennant getting much of a game at all to be honest. And also where would that leave Garcia? He almost never plays through the middle, he's often played out wide with the idea to drift in. With Gonzalez, Pennant and Giuly potentially signing maybe Garcia would have to be sold - something I wouldn't be in favour of.

We'll see what happens but I'd be very surprise if we were to sign 2 right sided players this summer...

by **tubby** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:21 pm

Well I could see Giuly at his age gettin 2 years here. And Rafa does like to Rotate so if hes planning on getting 2 then he will make sure Stevie sticks to the CM position which is his strength.

by **woof woof !** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:27 pm

bavlondon wrote:Well I could see Giuly at his age gettin 2 years here. And Rafa does like to Rotate so if hes planning on getting 2 then he will make sure Stevie sticks to the CM position which is his strength.

I hope we dont sign Giuly or Pennant .

By the time Giuly adapts to the premiership he'll be just about ready to f'uckin' retire .

Pennant is completely overated , he's a nearly man , not nearly good enough for Arsenal and certainly not nearly good enough for LFC . Christ , is Rafa so skint that these are the best we can afford . I'd rather do without and save the f'ucking money .

by **Kukilon** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:52 pm

Pennant would be great and I doubt he will cost much either. Liverpool doesn't have loads of money either so saving money is a must.

by **A.B.** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:58 pm

bavlondon wrote:
welsh wizzard wrote:What a load of wankkkkkkkkkkkk, this should be in rumour mill anyway how many times ave i been shifted from here to there.
Pennent is an average player, wasn't good enough for Arsenal not good enough for us simple as that. We are hoping to challenge next season then we need better quality on the right than pennent. Guily yeah like the looks for a short term deal.

Im still waiting for Joaquin and Ronaldinho to sign Wizard

I certainly this turns out to be just another rumor reported by Krap Talk. Personaly I don't rate Pennant as much as the others do here (strange how everyone all of a sudden does after Stu left, he was the only one praising him when he was on here ).

Perhaps I wouldn't be so against him signing with us had he had not had problems with the law.

by **JC_81** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:07 pm

A.B. wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
welsh wizzard wrote:What a load of wankkkkkkkkkkkk, this should be in rumour mill anyway how many times ave i been shifted from here to there.
Pennent is an average player, wasn't good enough for Arsenal not good enough for us simple as that. We are hoping to challenge next season then we need better quality on the right than pennent. Guily yeah like the looks for a short term deal.

Im still waiting for Joaquin and Ronaldinho to sign Wizard

I certainly this turns out to be just another rumor reported by Krap Talk. Personaly I don't rate Pennant as much as the others do here (strange how everyone all of a sudden does after Stu left, he was the only one praising him when he was on here ).

Perhaps I wouldn't be so against him signing with us had he had not had problems with the law.

AB mate, that's complete bollox that no one on here rated Pennant until after Stu left, where did you pull that one from?? Your @rse?

Granted Stu is perhaps the only person I have ever encountered that actually believes Pennant is superior to SWP, which is also bollox. Despite Stu over-rating Pennant he is a good player and for 4 million I'd definitely take him. We need a right sided player, but we need a top striker more, so getting Pennant on the cheap would allow us to spend the bulk of our funds on the priority.

As I said above though, I don't see the point on Giuly and Pennant, it has to be one or the other.

by **A.B.** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:26 pm

john craig wrote:
A.B. wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
welsh wizzard wrote:What a load of wankkkkkkkkkkkk, this should be in rumour mill anyway how many times ave i been shifted from here to there.
Pennent is an average player, wasn't good enough for Arsenal not good enough for us simple as that. We are hoping to challenge next season then we need better quality on the right than pennent. Guily yeah like the looks for a short term deal.

Im still waiting for Joaquin and Ronaldinho to sign Wizard

I certainly this turns out to be just another rumor reported by Krap Talk. Personaly I don't rate Pennant as much as the others do here (strange how everyone all of a sudden does after Stu left, he was the only one praising him when he was on here ).

Perhaps I wouldn't be so against him signing with us had he had not had problems with the law.

AB mate, that's complete bollox that no one on here rated Pennant until after Stu left, where did you pull that one from?? Your @rse?

Granted Stu is perhaps the only person I have ever encountered that actually believes Pennant is superior to SWP, which is also bollox. Despite Stu over-rating Pennant he is a good player and for 4 million I'd definitely take him. We need a right sided player, but we need a top striker more, so getting Pennant on the cheap would allow us to spend the bulk of our funds on the priority.

As I said above though, I don't see the point on Giuly and Pennant, it has to be one or the other.

I personaly can't remember anyone else mentioning that we should sign him. Perhaps I'm wrong, but many critisized Stu at the time for even mentioning Pennant.

The signing of Pennant wouldn't mother me as much had he kept out of trouble.

by **JC_81** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:34 pm

A.B. wrote:I personaly can't remember anyone else mentioning that we should sign him. Perhaps I'm wrong, but many critisized Stu at the time for even mentioning Pennant.

The signing of Pennant wouldn't mother me as much had he kept out of trouble.

Fair enough mate.

As far as Pennant's behaviour goes, up to now he's been a disgrace. But he's not the first young lad with cash to go off the rails and he won't be the last.

Someone in another thread made a good point that at Liverpool there will be guys like Gerrard and Carra to put Pennant in his place if he starts @rsing around again, so I don't think it would be an issue. He also knows that if he messes up at Liverpool it would probably signal the end of him ever having a chance at a big club or to break into the England set-up, so maybe it is just what he needs.

Purely in playing terms the lad has got it. I believe he's behind only Downing in the Premiership in terms of his ability to cross the ball. I've said it before but at 4mil he's worth it, no question.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:35 pm

the one thing you can say about pennant is that the prem doesnt hold any surprises for him.
he`s played in england all his career so you havent got the worry you get with foreigners if the league is too physical for them.
blackburn won the title with efficient wingers rather than mega stars.
what he lacks as a ball chewer he makes up for in delivery and i think rafa has targeted that aspect of our game - too many of our balls into the box hit the first defender.
he`s also got the ability to take a man on and get to the by line using his pace, he`s not a one trick pony like beckham who wont go after a full back.
who knows, gonzales and pennant could be our ripley and wilcox.

by **JC_81** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:40 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:who knows, gonzales and pennant could be our ripley and wilcox.

To be fair I think the Premiership has risen in standards since the days you could win it with players like Ripley and Wilcox as automatic starters, but it's a good analogy.

I agree with your point totally. Efficiency over flair every time. And with Pennant you know the delivery will be good. He's only 23 and surely his all round game has a good chance of developing alongside players like Gerrard and Alonso.

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