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by **account deleted by request** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:12 pm

At least we can't really blame Parry for the latest transfer f/ups. The little tw@t has supposedly gone on holiday AGAIN according to RAWK.

by **redhayesy** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:15 pm

andy_g wrote:
Effes wrote:
redsince2001 wrote:..... with moves for Steve Sidwell and Tom Huddlestone on the cards.

Is this some kind of sick joke?

i think they mean that villa are looking at them as replacements for barry. i can comfortably predict that our midfield next season won't consist of downing, sidwell, huddlestone and milner.

he"s right it would be a fecking sick joke! i"m also glad you
feel comfortable with your prediction mate

by **Kharhaz** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:17 pm

RUSHIE#9 wrote:MO'N was on MOTD banging on about how Barry finished the last England international wearing the captains armband and that justifies their (Villa's) valuation of the player.
I've never agreed that players are worth more just because they have an English birth certificate/passport and picked up the odd international cap.
We've seen players like Hargreaves and D.Bent sold for £18 and £10 million (respectively) just because they have worn an England shirt in recent years when in reality neither of them could hold a torch to foreign players that have come to the Premier league for a fraction of the price.

I think the press help build a player up also. If an englishmans name is littered over the back pages of several of the tabloids then the club instantly raises the price. As far as barry is concerned, forget him, let his contract run out then get him on a free. Id begrudge paying £10 mill for him so 20 is ridiculous.

by **Scottbot** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:18 pm

As far as i can see MON has every right to demand whatever he likes for the player. Hargreaves and Carrick went for silly money and Barry is the better player. Add this to the fact the transfer has been handled terribly by the club (particulalry Rafa and Gerrard with their very public remarks) from start to finish then it's no surprise they are playing hard ball. The club are getting what they deserve on this in my opinion. They have been very arrogant in the way they have approached the whole thing.

by **Kharhaz** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:23 pm

Scottbot wrote:As far as i can see MON has every right to demand whatever he likes for the player. Hargreaves and Carrick went for silly money and Barry is the better player. Add this to the fact the transfer has been handled terribly by the club (particulalry Rafa and Gerrard with their very public remarks) from start to finish then it's no surprise they are playing hard ball. The club are getting what they deserve on this in my opinion. They have been very arrogant in the way they have approached the whole thing.

At first unless im mistaken, we didnt find out until the rumours were confirmed about the interest by martin oneill. Rafa enquired about him and MON didnt like it so bitched about it publicly to confirm the interest. Rafa didnt do anything wrong in my opinion. He enquired about Barry and MON didnt like it. I could be wrong of course....

by **Scottbot** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:36 pm

Kharhaz wrote:At first unless im mistaken, we didnt find out until the rumours were confirmed about the interest by martin oneill. Rafa enquired about him and MON didnt like it so bitched about it publicly to confirm the interest. Rafa didnt do anything wrong in my opinion. He enquired about Barry and MON didnt like it. I could be wrong of course....

I'm pretty sure the rumours came first as O'neil was absolutely furious because news of the bid was leaked the press (by LFC he claimed). whether that was true or not the right thing to do (in my opinion) would have been to keep quiet and ensure any future negotiations were kept under wraps. Instead Rafa chose to speak about Barry on a few different occasions (followed by Gerrard) and bizarrely both of them finished their comments by saying 'we need to respect Aston Villa/MON' but all they did was pi..s.s him off. It's no wonder they are asking a fortune.

I just find it strange that so many posters on here are shouting the odds at MON and yet we are playing exactly the same game with Juventus for the Alonso transfer.

by **Kharhaz** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:43 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:At first unless im mistaken, we didnt find out until the rumours were confirmed about the interest by martin oneill. Rafa enquired about him and MON didnt like it so bitched about it publicly to confirm the interest. Rafa didnt do anything wrong in my opinion. He enquired about Barry and MON didnt like it. I could be wrong of course....

I'm pretty sure the rumours came first as O'neil was absolutely furious because news of the bid was leaked the press (by LFC he claimed). whether that was true or not the right thing to do (in my opinion) would have been to keep quiet and ensure any future negotiations were kept under wraps. Instead Rafa chose to speak about Barry on a few different occasions (followed by Gerrard) and bizarrely both of them finished their comments by saying 'we need to respect Aston Villa/MON' but all they did was pi..s.s him off. It's no wonder they are asking a fortune.

I just find it strange that so many posters on here are shouting the odds at MON and yet we are playing exactly the same game with Juventus for the Alonso transfer.

I think it was because of his "not supporting liverpool players" in the euros that has made him look petty. For me at least anyway. I dont blame him for rating the guy as he is the best Villa have and is there captain. We should look elsewhere and keep alonso for 1 more season at least.

by **red_guy** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:13 am

Forget about barry, keep alonso and use the fund to buy David VILLA instead of going for VILLA captain.
Seriously, if the price is gonna reach 20M , it's not worth it.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:18 am

REDTILLDEAD wrote:Martin o'neil has just said on BBC in the half time interval with Lineaker that Villa have turned down an improved offer today for Barry...didn't say for how much though?...but he did say that he thought the chances of keeping hold of Barry were slim.....

How unprofessional is that though? For a manager to come out and say that during a euro game hes lost the plot.
England captain for one unimportant game so what he wont be captain again.

They have rejected a 3rd bid hopefully its the final one its now time Barry handed in a transfer request.

by **Owzat** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:20 am

20 camels, final offer. Seriously guys, fergie, Arsene, and all at Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal must be laughing their heads off. I doubt they're thinking "oh no, Liverpool are on the brink of signing GARETH BARRY, we're in sh 1t" When was the last time we signed someone from villa that paid off? I thought we mainly dumped players on them like we did spudz for a time.

by **whylongball?** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:51 am

Barry is a good player but 15 mil for him? man its getting crazy..... or Rafa getting desperate
:no

by **Judge** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:45 am

actually most of us said that about crouch, including me, when we signed him, and tbh he turned out to very good considering.

i think G Barry is a better player, and reckon he'd fit in quite well.

a good buy, but at 15 million, a bit high. but arent all english players going for alot compared to bargain basement euro buys. (solskjaer springs to mind as a bargain years back)

by **Roger Red Hat** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:00 am

lets just remember something here...

Barry plays in an average team and is pretty impressive. Imagine how good he will be in the liverpool squad with gerrard, torres & masha playing around him.

by **66-1112520797** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:37 am

Judge wrote:actually most of us said that about crouch, including me, when we signed him, and tbh he turned out to very good considering.

i think G Barry is a better player, and reckon he'd fit in quite well.

a good buy, but at 15 million, a bit high. but arent all english players going for alot compared to bargain basement euro buys. (solskjaer springs to mind as a bargain years back)

Good post there Judgey. :nod

by **Judge** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:02 am

Bamaga man wrote:
Judge wrote:actually most of us said that about crouch, including me, when we signed him, and tbh he turned out to very good considering.

i think G Barry is a better player, and reckon he'd fit in quite well.

a good buy, but at 15 million, a bit high. but arent all english players going for alot compared to bargain basement euro buys. (solskjaer springs to mind as a bargain years back)

Good post there Judgey.

thanks

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