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by **Toffeehater** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:01 am

NANNY RED wrote:
SundanceKid wrote:Today's my birthday, I want Barry for my birthday.

Well tough luck lad I WANTED Xabi for mine never got him though.

Id rather have a xabi than a Barry

by **SundanceKid** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:36 am

NANNY RED wrote:
SundanceKid wrote:Today's my birthday, I want Barry for my birthday.

Well tough luck lad I WANTED Xabi for mine never got him though.

Id rather have a xabi than a Barry

Trade a Xabi in for store credit and get a Barry for no cost.

by **Owzat** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:03 pm

Interesting comment from Alan Hansen when Lineker suggested Barry and Gerrard work well together for England. He said what I believe which is that isn't a priority. He cited a winger with bags of pace, well maybe he should have added "- or two"

by **stmichael** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:30 pm

King Carra wrote:I don't really think you can compare Barry and Alonso together. They're both good players, but play different games. Xabi is more of a slower player and needs the game to be slowed down and is more defensive, whereas Barry is more offensive. I'd welcome Barry in our team with open arms. I think him and Gerrard in the same team week in week out (with rotations obvs) he'd be amazing for us. Alonso is a good player, but he's become far too inconsistent for my liking.

People can argue that we're decreasing quality in the centre of midfield, but how do we know what? We don't. Barry looks better with better players around him (just look at England) and he'd certainly boost our goals from midfield (which definitely needs to be improved as all the expectance is on Gerrard and Torres to score).

The problem with Xabi is that he does not get forward far enough to make a creative difference. If you look at Rafa's Valencia he played a similar system to the one we do now. He had two central midfielders Albelda and Baraja. Both had defensive duties but Albelda rarely ventured forward while Baraja actually led them in scoring goals one year.

It seemed that last year Masch was the player that ventured forward. As much as I admire him, this is not his strength. Players are just more comfortable in certain areas of the pitch. I think Barry is naturally a more attacking player. Watching him for Villa, he was often found in and around the penalty area. Can barely remember Xabi that far forward this year.

This type of player is essential to the system as it allows Gerrard to play further forward and not collect the ball from deep which in turn isolates Torres.

by **King Carra** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:09 pm

stmichael wrote:
King Carra wrote:I don't really think you can compare Barry and Alonso together. They're both good players, but play different games. Xabi is more of a slower player and needs the game to be slowed down and is more defensive, whereas Barry is more offensive. I'd welcome Barry in our team with open arms. I think him and Gerrard in the same team week in week out (with rotations obvs) he'd be amazing for us. Alonso is a good player, but he's become far too inconsistent for my liking.

People can argue that we're decreasing quality in the centre of midfield, but how do we know what? We don't. Barry looks better with better players around him (just look at England) and he'd certainly boost our goals from midfield (which definitely needs to be improved as all the expectance is on Gerrard and Torres to score).

The problem with Xabi is that he does not get forward far enough to make a creative difference. If you look at Rafa's Valencia he played a similar system to the one we do now. He had two central midfielders Albelda and Baraja. Both had defensive duties but Albelda rarely ventured forward while Baraja actually led them in scoring goals one year.

It seemed that last year Masch was the player that ventured forward. As much as I admire him, this is not his strength. Players are just more comfortable in certain areas of the pitch. I think Barry is naturally a more attacking player. Watching him for Villa, he was often found in and around the penalty area. Can barely remember Xabi that far forward this year.

This type of player is essential to the system as it allows Gerrard to play further forward and not collect the ball from deep which in turn isolates Torres.

Exactly!

As much as I love Xabi, this system that we play doesn't suit him and imo, it's not fair on the player to have him sat on the bench. Barry's been exceptional for England (another MOTM performance last night), just think about it, we could be seeing this week in week out next season. :buttrock

I wouldn't be suprised if we ended up paying the same amount we get for Xabi though...

by **Toffeehater** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:53 pm

For now barry is better then alonso , when in form , barry doesn't even come close . If we get a offer of 16 million for xabi , we should take it and buy barry for 12 million maybe 1 or 2 million more if refused , nothing else

by **Redman in wales** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:59 pm

dont know if anyone's posted this on here before, but i saw this on RAWK and had to pinch it...

His Jock-strap proved he was a red - Barries Barries
He borrowed it from Stevie G - Barries Barries
His former manager was a c***
He's here to aid our trophy hunt
Ga-reth Ba-rry
Stevie G's best mate...

by **redbeergoggles** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:26 pm

Redman in wales wrote:dont know if anyone's posted this on here before, but i saw this on RAWK and had to pinch it...

His Jock-strap proved he was a red - Barries Barries
He borrowed it from Stevie G - Barries Barries
His former manager was a c***
He's here to aid our trophy hunt
Ga-reth Ba-rry
Stevie G's best mate...

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:48 pm

redbeergoggles wrote:
Redman in wales wrote:dont know if anyone's posted this on here before, but i saw this on RAWK and had to pinch it...

His Jock-strap proved he was a red - Barries Barries
He borrowed it from Stevie G - Barries Barries
His former manager was a c***
He's here to aid our trophy hunt
Ga-reth Ba-rry
Stevie G's best mate...

Fernandos gonna get a cob on

Still cant beat that new Torres ad though

Addios Lah

by **Reg** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:49 am

What chances....... Barry in this week........ Gerrard out next year?

Similar players, similar captains, mature and ambitious.

If Gerrard wants to walk wouldnt it make sense from his viewpoint as well as the club's to bring a replacement in?

After all as we've all said, its a mystery to sell Xavi.

Just hit me whilst reading the article in tuesdays Times when Barry says he was surprised how public Gerrard made his comments after the England game... seems he is indeed desparate for Barry to come.... why?

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:42 am

Reg wrote:What chances....... Barry in this week........ Gerrard out next year?

Similar players, similar captains, mature and ambitious.

If Gerrard wants to walk wouldnt it make sense from his viewpoint as well as the club's to bring a replacement in?

After all as we've all said, its a mystery to sell Xavi.

Just hit me whilst reading the article in tuesdays Times when Barry says he was surprised how public Gerrard made his comments after the England game... seems he is indeed desparate for Barry to come.... why?

I think if we went that way, then Michael Johnson would be a much better choice.

by **Owzat** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:15 pm

ruskiy playmaker wrote:
Reg wrote:What chances....... Barry in this week........ Gerrard out next year?

Similar players, similar captains, mature and ambitious.

If Gerrard wants to walk wouldnt it make sense from his viewpoint as well as the club's to bring a replacement in?

After all as we've all said, its a mystery to sell Xavi.

Just hit me whilst reading the article in tuesdays Times when Barry says he was surprised how public Gerrard made his comments after the England game... seems he is indeed desparate for Barry to come.... why?

I think if we went that way, then Michael Johnson would be a much better choice.

The Thai doesn't seem to have a clue so we've more hope of getting Johnson than Barry and at a decent price. I'd like to see us go for Richards, can play RB and I like him doing so.

by **Ace Ventura** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:20 pm

Reg wrote:What chances....... Barry in this week........ Gerrard out next year?

Similar players, similar captains, mature and ambitious.

If Gerrard wants to walk wouldnt it make sense from his viewpoint as well as the club's to bring a replacement in?

After all as we've all said, its a mystery to sell Xavi.

Just hit me whilst reading the article in tuesdays Times when Barry says he was surprised how public Gerrard made his comments after the England game... seems he is indeed desparate for Barry to come.... why?

Cos they are best mates and he is a good player.

Simple as that really reg.

by **tubby** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:26 pm

Now that hes back I hope we will have some movement this week. Hopefully he will be signed up by the time the Euros start.

by **metalhead** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:14 pm

By the looks of it, he wants to leave, good signing if we get him

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