Liverpool FC Forum

[jacdaniel]

the number of people in the media who are already writing him up is laughable. i keep hearing "the jury's out". well der, the bloke's played about six competitive games so of course the jury's out. it's not his fault that we paid £35m for him at the end of the day. he's only worth what a club is willing to pay for him and we were backed into a corner due to the lateness of the deal in the transfer window.

it would be the same whether he cost £15m or £35m. it's modern day football. players don't get half a season to settle in anymore. they get five minutes. once the lad gets fully fit he'll be a beast, especially with a lot more supply coming from the wide areas and set piece delivery this season.

To be fair its not just us... Torres is getting the same if not more abuse for not finding form at chelsea, and Dzeko at City. 

There always seems to be unrealistic pressure on strikers to score in every game.

[crim cram]

I can see him as an answer to clubs that "park the bus" on us but that doesn't mean he's going to be in every team sheet.  We never had someone who could dominate in the air during Rafa's tenure and it hurt us.  We'll probably play a quicker counter-attacking side against tough oppos - and a big target man to answer the 10 behind the ball strategy.  He might not play every game and his price tag shouldn't be a factor in team selection.  He can do a job, I'm not sure he can do certain things that KK is trying to do, namely quick tempo, high pressure and lots of movement.  Carrol doesn't seem to be able to play that kind of game.

[stmichael]

I can see him as an answer to clubs that "park the bus" on us but that doesn't mean he's going to be in every team sheet.  We never had someone who could dominate in the air during Rafa's tenure and it hurt us.  We'll probably play a quicker counter-attacking side against tough oppos - and a big target man to answer the 10 behind the ball strategy.  He might not play every game and his price tag shouldn't be a factor in team selection.  He can do a job, I'm not sure he can do certain things that KK is trying to do, namely quick tempo, high pressure and lots of movement.  Carrol doesn't seem to be able to play that kind of game.

You see I don't agree with this. I don't get where this assumption that he's useless with the ball on the floor comes from. If anything he's underrated with the ball at his feet. Just look at his display at home against City last season when we played some sublime stuff as an example. I was also at the game at St James' last season and he was easily the best player on the park both in the air and on the ground.

This idea of hoofing the ball long to him is not his fault anyway. It's the fault of the defenders we have who, Agger aside, don't trust themselves to bring the ball out from the back and play into midfield. I actually read a stat the other day that we played more long balls when he wasn't in the side.

[crazyhorse]

I agree.. he has a good touch and the vision for a good pass as well.

[Zidane]

Thought he was really good against Valarenga.

[alwayslfc]

I don't think much of Andy Carroll to be honest. He's an above average striker at the very best and not a prolific scorer in the likes of Fowler and Rush. Liverpool's main strategy seems to be centred on him but that's a strategy for mid table teams like his old club just because he cost 35 mill. And because of that, the goal focus seems to be based on him but he is not really that good. If Liverpool continues to play this way, this could prove to be their downslide to bottom half of the table avoiding relegation by a whisker. I'd prefer a Kuyt Suarez attack up front than Suarez and Carroll.

Many fans sweep his weaknesses under the carpet and deceive themselves that he is the next Rush just because he cost that much,  he's more like the next Crouchie. He doesn't have the pace and the dribbling skills and so in my opinion, he is Liverpool's worst dud signing of all time.

[ethanr]

Thought he was really good against Valarenga.

Same.  First half he was the best player on the pitch.

I agree with what Stmichael is saying.. It's how I've felt about him the whole time.  I do worry a little bit that he won't turn out because he's no longer playing for the club he loves, but I'm still confident he will be a great striker for us.

[stmichael]

I don't think much of Andy Carroll to be honest. He's an above average striker at the very best and not a prolific scorer in the likes of Fowler and Rush. Liverpool's main strategy seems to be centred on him but that's a strategy for mid table teams like his old club just because he cost 35 mill. And because of that, the goal focus seems to be based on him but he is not really that good. If Liverpool continues to play this way, this could prove to be their downslide to bottom half of the table avoiding relegation by a whisker. I'd prefer a Kuyt Suarez attack up front than Suarez and Carroll.

Many fans sweep his weaknesses under the carpet and deceive themselves that he is the next Rush just because he cost that much,  he's more like the next Crouchie. He doesn't have the pace and the dribbling skills and so in my opinion, he is Liverpool's worst dud signing of all time.

   

[jacdaniel]

If Liverpool continues to play this way, this could prove to be their downslide to bottom half of the table avoiding relegation by a whisker. I'd prefer a Kuyt Suarez attack up front than Suarez and Carroll.

Many fans sweep his weaknesses under the carpet and deceive themselves that he is the next Rush just because he cost that much,  he's more like the next Crouchie. He doesn't have the pace and the dribbling skills and so in my opinion, he is Liverpool's worst dud signing of all time.

Why are you so obsessed with us getting relegated?  Im starting to suspect that you may well be a Manc.

[crazyhorse]

Every front two have to have different attributes to blend and compliment each other. In LFC's most sucessful periods we have had a similar blend.. Toshack and Keegan for example. I dont think that is a bad comparrison... those two worked quite well I think! Carrol and Suarez will as well..

Faith brothers faith!!

[jimmy brighton]

Every front two have to have different attributes to blend and compliment each other. In LFC's most sucessful periods we have had a similar blend.. Toshack and Keegan for example. I dont think that is a bad comparrison... those two worked quite well I think! Carrol and Suarez will as well..

Faith brothers faith!!

As soon as we signed Carroll and Suarez I felt Kenny had decided to use the old established Liverpool methods and the Keegan/Toshack partnership obviously sprung to mind. The fruits of this will be enjoyed this season whilst Alwayslfc is a doom-merchant
 

[crazyhorse]

I agree.. 20+ goals for each of them!

[alwayslfc]

I've never been a fan of Carroll and still feel he was overvalued. Now with Downing, Adam and Enrique supplying crosses into the box, let's see whether he can live up to the mark.

[Greavesie]

If Liverpool continues to play this way, this could prove to be their downslide to bottom half of the table avoiding relegation by a whisker. I'd prefer a Kuyt Suarez attack up front than Suarez and Carroll.

Many fans sweep his weaknesses under the carpet and deceive themselves that he is the next Rush just because he cost that much,  he's more like the next Crouchie. He doesn't have the pace and the dribbling skills and so in my opinion, he is Liverpool's worst dud signing of all time.

Why are you so obsessed with us getting relegated?  Im starting to suspect that you may well be a Manc.

'starting to suspect...'

Mate I was suspecting aaaaages ago.

It's nice to get the situation of the club from another angle I guess 

[ethanr]

If Liverpool continues to play this way, this could prove to be their downslide to bottom half of the table avoiding relegation by a whisker. I'd prefer a Kuyt Suarez attack up front than Suarez and Carroll.

Many fans sweep his weaknesses under the carpet and deceive themselves that he is the next Rush just because he cost that much,  he's more like the next Crouchie. He doesn't have the pace and the dribbling skills and so in my opinion, he is Liverpool's worst dud signing of all time.

Why are you so obsessed with us getting relegated?  Im starting to suspect that you may well be a Manc.

'starting to suspect...'

Mate I was suspecting aaaaages ago 

I'm pretty sure half of us were suspecting aaaaaages ago... That's why most of us just ignore those posts 

Every times it's pointed out, s/he denies it and writes one positive post about Liverpool, then back to the negative and how we suck and how the players we signed are bad and how Kenny is a horrible manager who isn't the right one to lead us to glory.  And apparently how we will get relegated as well.