Andy Carroll signs for West Ham

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:55 am

rodgers clearly doesnt want him here so the club should just accept their bid and move on.
i`m disappointed with rodgers attitude towards carroll though, he was making noises about wanting him out before andy even got back off holiday and in pre season he hardly gave him a kick whilst at the same time giving fringe players like cole and pacheco plenty of game time.
borini in and carroll out? shades of poulson in masch out for me, i think that is weakening the squad.
you just know carroll is going to destroy agger and skrtel when he plays against us as well just to rub it in.
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Postby red till i die!! » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:00 am

i hope he stays and rodgers is forced to use him rather than accept what newcastle feel he's worth.
they rode us on the initial purchase and it would be further embarrassing if we let him return for that.
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Postby red till i die!! » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:06 am

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:55 am wrote:rodgers clearly doesnt want him here so the club should just accept their bid and move on.
i`m disappointed with rodgers attitude towards carroll though, he was making noises about wanting him out before andy even got back off holiday and in pre season he hardly gave him a kick whilst at the same time giving fringe players like cole and pacheco plenty of game time.
borini in and carroll out? shades of poulson in masch out for me, i think that is weakening the squad.
you just know carroll is going to destroy agger and skrtel when he plays against us as well just to rub it in.


all true except accepting the offer bit :D .
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Postby Kenny Kan » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:29 am

What the fuck?
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Postby The Good Yank » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:15 am

Attack of the Bot!!!!
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Postby Kenny Kan » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:16 am

The Good Yank » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:15 am wrote:Attack of the Bot!!!!

There seems to be an army of them at the moment!
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Postby damjan193 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:39 am

Kenny Kan » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:16 am wrote:
The Good Yank » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:15 am wrote:Attack of the Bot!!!!

There seems to be an army of them at the moment!

Hold the line men!!
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:18 am

damjan193 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:39 am wrote:
Kenny Kan » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:16 am wrote:
The Good Yank » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:15 am wrote:Attack of the Bot!!!!

There seems to be an army of them at the moment!

Hold the line men!!


The spammers are more successful than Carroll!  :laugh:
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Postby alwayslfc » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:07 pm

I really feel sorry for the lad. He didn't want to come to Liverpool in the first place. Newcastle is in his heart and his home town club just like Liverpool is to Stevie G. He was virtually shown the door to come to us by his club's greedy owner. He never ask for that astronomical 35 million, heck RVP only cost manure 25 million. Now he doesn't fit into the new manager's plans and no club wants him for the high price that Liverpool wants based on what we paid for him. The signing of Carroll by Dalglish has been a curse.
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:23 pm

I really hope we keep him.

You saw the damage that bigged haired Flanani (or whatever his name is) did against Man U the other day.  Imagine what Carroll could do to them??

I like the fact that BR is trying to make us play passing football but you do need different options against different teams, and against the likes of Chelsea and Man U, Andy Carroll is perfect.
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Postby celtic-red! » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:42 pm

Ola Mr Benitez » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:23 pm wrote:I really hope we keep him.

You saw the damage that bigged haired Flanani (or whatever his name is) did against Man U the other day.  Imagine what Carroll could do to them??

I like the fact that BR is trying to make us play passing football but you do need different options against different teams, and against the likes of Chelsea and Man U, Andy Carroll is perfect.


BR would never play the way everton did just like Wenger or martinez etc wouldnt either. 

Yes that direct style was effective for Everton but thats not how BR likes his team to play football!  So even when Carroll is playing, forget about seeing these long direct balls thrown into the box. 

I guarantee you never see us play the way everton did while BR is at anfield.

I still think some people have not grasped what BR is trying to do @ liverpool.  The whole style of play from top to bottom is going to be changed completely.  Liverpool being direct with a big man upfront is never gonna happen under BR!

I have no problem with this!!
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Postby Boxscarf » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:40 pm

Eagle » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:32 pm wrote:Can’t blame Newcastle, it just business. It was business when they forced one of their best players and fans favourite out because we put in a ridiculous bid. They are just offering around actual market value. If they are willing to give us 15million now with no loan deals involved we should seriously consider accepting and just move on. That fact we were mugs 18 months ago isn’t Newcastle’s problem. We’re going to make a big loss on him one way or another.


This is pretty much how I see it, Eagle! I don't what Comolli was thinking when he put that bid in, but I just hope it was the last straw that broke the camel's back in regards to our reckless spending over the years which has seen us overpaying for players or signing players who aren't good enough to be here. I like Andy Carroll and wished he would become a success here, but it appears Rodgers doesn't want him here and he doesn't want stick around where he's not wanted, so I would look to offload him as soon as possible. £12m is better than nothing and I doubt we'll get much more for him in all honesty.
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Postby celtic-red! » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:09 pm

Boxscarf » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:40 pm wrote:
Eagle » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:32 pm wrote:Can’t blame Newcastle, it just business. It was business when they forced one of their best players and fans favourite out because we put in a ridiculous bid. They are just offering around actual market value. If they are willing to give us 15million now with no loan deals involved we should seriously consider accepting and just move on. That fact we were mugs 18 months ago isn’t Newcastle’s problem. We’re going to make a big loss on him one way or another.


This is pretty much how I see it, Eagle! I don't what Comolli was thinking when he put that bid in, but I just hope it was the last straw that broke the camel's back in regards to our reckless spending over the years which has seen us overpaying for players or signing players who aren't good enough to be here. I like Andy Carroll and wished he would become a success here, but it appears Rodgers doesn't want him here and he doesn't want stick around where he's not wanted, so I would look to offload him as soon as possible. £12m is better than nothing and I doubt we'll get much more for him in all honesty.


Please include KD in this.  This was comolli and Kenny together!

The club want more than £12m.  I cant see any club paying more then that so I fully expect Carroll to stay and spend 99% of games on the bench.
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Postby Boxscarf » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:39 pm

I don't blame Kenny for wanting Andy Carroll, I'm sure many managers admire Carroll, but it wasn't Kenny who decided to offer £35m for Andy Carroll was it? That's the job of Comolli isn't it? Kenny highlighted the players he wanted and Comolli brought them in and it was Comolli and not Kenny who overpaid, so Kenny won't get any criticism from me for that. You can argue that Kenny should have tried to sign a better calibre of footballer i.e. Falcao and Turan instead of Carroll and Downing, but I don't see how anyone can blame Kenny for the prices that Comolli negotiated for the likes of Carroll, Downing and Henderson.

The club might want more than £12m, but the only club who has offered more was West Ham and Andy Carroll has made it clear he doesn't want to go to West Ham. If Newcastle are the only club who want him and Rodgers doesn't see a future for Carroll at the club, then I think it would be wise for us to cut our losses and move on. Use that £12m to bring another striker in.
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