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[red till i die!!]

The last game he done well in and deserved a goal. He done ok yesterday and got a goal. But for me the problem isn't him, it's the service he gets, or doesn't rather.

Downing has gone a bit stale since the start of the season when he was one of our best players. Bellamy should probably start the next game, plus Stevie is back so either way I think we will see Carroll scoring more soon.

agree with this.
shearer made some good points on motd last night and highlighted on several occasions the lack of service he was getting.
imo the lad gets himself into some good positions but is rarely picked out and that needs sorting.

bellamy and gerrard have to be starters for the manc game and id put my money on carroll to net again as long as the players around him show some inteligence in playing to his strenghts.

[parchpea]

At this level you have to adapt, you have to be more than a one trick pony at the top level of the modern game. I think they are trying to do this with Carroll and teach him, but its hard work at the moment, its like wading through mud for the lad. We all want him to do well, course we do, but its frustrating, and if we are perfectly honest even Dagger is a bit touchy on the subject, its slow going. I doubt Liverpool will start pumping the ball in for Carroll so he will have to get it right the Liverpool way and he will find himself in and out of the team until he does. If it clicks with him I really do think weve a player there and obviously so do the club but its been a hell of a wager on him no doubt about it.

[tubby]

To get the best out of Andy Carroll you need good crosses coming in from the wings. We brought in Henderson and Downing and have so far not got that.

[7_Kewell]

To get the best out of Andy Carroll you need good crosses coming in from the wings. We brought in Henderson and Downing and have so far not got that.

ditto.

I can't think of ANY crosses that found Carroll against everton. The only time he got some good service was duriing a couple of 2nd half corners, which showed him to be dangerous .

He's improving with each game, but i think it's a combination of lack of service from the wings and being forced to adapt to a new way of playing that's caused his problems.

He'll come good and expect to see him grab another goal in the next game 

[Thommo's perm]

To get the best out of Andy Carroll you need good crosses coming in from the wings. We brought in Henderson and Downing and have so far not got that.

ditto.

I can't think of ANY crosses that found Carroll against everton. The only time he got some good service was duriing a couple of 2nd half corners, which showed him to be dangerous .

He's improving with each game, but i think it's a combination of lack of service from the wings and being forced to adapt to a new way of playing that's caused his problems.

He'll come good and expect to see him grab another goal in the next game 

I mentioned it in the Downing thread
Enrique is doing Downings job

[Ola Mr Benitez]

Fabio capello has again expressed his concern about Andy Carroll's lifestyle after he sank 35,000 bitter's on Saturday...

[SouthCoastShankly]

To get the best out of Andy Carroll you need good crosses coming in from the wings. We brought in Henderson and Downing and have so far not got that.

ditto.

I can't think of ANY crosses that found Carroll against everton. The only time he got some good service was duriing a couple of 2nd half corners, which showed him to be dangerous .

He's improving with each game, but i think it's a combination of lack of service from the wings and being forced to adapt to a new way of playing that's caused his problems.

He'll come good and expect to see him grab another goal in the next game 

Except for the cross he scored from.

[The Good Yank]

I can't think of ANY crosses that found Carroll against everton.

Except for the cross he scored from.

I was wondering when someone would mention that.

[andy_g]

technically speaking it was a pullback. if anyone wants to get into a discussion about the difference between a cross and a pullback, and the fuzzy area in between i guess we'd better move it into the advanced section.

[Reg]

The common objective of a cross, pullback or a Carra hoof is to get the ball into the box, so technically you're splitting hairs.

[7_Kewell]

To get the best out of Andy Carroll you need good crosses coming in from the wings. We brought in Henderson and Downing and have so far not got that.

ditto.

I can't think of ANY crosses that found Carroll against everton. The only time he got some good service was duriing a couple of 2nd half corners, which showed him to be dangerous .

He's improving with each game, but i think it's a combination of lack of service from the wings and being forced to adapt to a new way of playing that's caused his problems.

He'll come good and expect to see him grab another goal in the next game 

Except for the cross he scored from.

smartarse...i meant OTHER than the goal 

[Kenny Kan]

technically speaking it was a pullback. if anyone wants to get into a discussion about the difference between a cross and a pullback, and the fuzzy area in between i guess we'd better move it into the advanced section.

[stmichael]

Fabio capello has again expressed his concern about Andy Carroll's lifestyle after he sank 35,000 bitter's on Saturday...

 

[alwayslfc]

I feel sorry for the lad, I really do. First of all, the 35 million price tag that broke the record for a British player was not his doing. And now he's getting a lot of stick for not living up to the price tag.

Let's be honest. If we had the privilege of going back in time to January when El Sulko stabbed us at the back, would you or Comolli or Kenny still want to sign Carroll? I really get sick and tired of hearing members saying he needs time, he needs the crosses from the wings and our wingmen (if we can call them wingmen) are not doing their job and multiple other reasons etc etc for him to score.

Listen! If a 35 million pound striker needs so many demands and adjustments from his fellow team mates in order for him to grab the goals, then his is a misfit and does not deserve to be in the team. Instead he should be the one to make the adjustments to fit into the Liverpool way. If  KD keep on persisting with him because he cost so much and wanted to get the dividends back, then this could prove to be Kenny's  and ultimately the club's downfall and also will prove to be Kenny's or Comolli's biggest signing blunder in their football career.

We need a prolific scorer in the likes of Rushie, Aldo, Fowler, Owen, Torres a.s.a.p. to partner with Suarez. Suarez is creative and fast with the ball but his finishing is not up to the mark as we saw in recent games and Andy C so far does not fit into that category. Did our past prolific scorers needed so many adjustments in play from their team mates for them to score? Did they all virtually started scoring consistently right from their first game?

IMO, and many of you may disagree, if by Christmas he's not showing any signs of being a prolific scorer like the previous number 9s, we will need to get someone else in, in the January transfer window to do it. And if KD is stupid enough to continue on with Carroll trying to justify the price tag resulting in failure to qualify for CL, even his job could be in jeopardy next summer.

I'm not saying Carroll is no good, it's just that he's more suited to the Newcastle way than Liverpool, much like Hodgson more suitable to a mid table club than a big one like us.

[Kenny Kan]

That's a good post alwaysfc!

We definitely need a clinical striker in the side imo, a ''fox in the box'' to get us goals regularly.