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by **niny8** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:18 pm

If we can't manage to beat Birmingham I can't see why should we pray for others to lose points... I mean, they may lose some points but the problem remains in Liverpool not taking advantage on that

by **muzza798** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:25 am

Finnishing out of the top four will be the kick up the :censored:

we need

by **club_Levis** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:22 am

We will finish 5th and deservedly so. So sad with the kind of players we have.

by **Sir Roger** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:38 am

I said second before the season began
That has obviously gone, as has third and fourth
I will now say fifth and the Europa cup. Not a complete disaster but far from satisfactory for LFC

by **blurblur** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:00 am

it's a pity that we didn't managed to get positions 18th to 20th... else we might have a crack at being the champions for the Championship league next season by keeping our core of Lucas, Insua, Babel, N'Gog & Riera...

this might also make the Americans think twice in keeping their stakes in the club... haha...

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:04 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:we don't deserve it. we shouldn't. it would be the most undeserving "victory" should we end up 4th.

The team with the most points for 4th deserves it - if we have more points than anyone else to get 4th then we deserve it .

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:05 am

niny8 wrote:If we can't manage to beat Birmingham I can't see why should we pray for others to lose points... I mean, they may lose some points but the problem remains in Liverpool not taking advantage on that

None of the top teams have beaten Birmingham at their place

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:08 am

Benny The Noon wrote:
niny8 wrote:If we can't manage to beat Birmingham I can't see why should we pray for others to lose points... I mean, they may lose some points but the problem remains in Liverpool not taking advantage on that

None of the top teams have beaten Birmingham at their place

Sadly we are not one of the top teams :down:

by **Owzat** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:09 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
niny8 wrote:If we can't manage to beat Birmingham I can't see why should we pray for others to lose points... I mean, they may lose some points but the problem remains in Liverpool not taking advantage on that

None of the top teams have beaten Birmingham at their place

Sadly we are not one of the top teams

How many of the top sides lost at Wigan or Portsmouth, or failed to win at Wolves. It's a completely irrelevant point, you get odd quirks where one side has a good record against top sides but then is vulnerable to weaker sides.

by **Greavesie** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:13 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
niny8 wrote:If we can't manage to beat Birmingham I can't see why should we pray for others to lose points... I mean, they may lose some points but the problem remains in Liverpool not taking advantage on that

None of the top teams have beaten Birmingham at their place

when you're in any competition you want other teams to lose, if we were challenging for the prem we'd be rooting for Man u and Chelsea to lose would we not. If we wanted play offs we'd want the teams above and below to lose. even if we were top we'd want second place to lose so we'd have a bigger gap at the top.

by **Greavesie** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:14 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
niny8 wrote:If we can't manage to beat Birmingham I can't see why should we pray for others to lose points... I mean, they may lose some points but the problem remains in Liverpool not taking advantage on that

None of the top teams have beaten Birmingham at their place

Sadly we are not one of the top teams

stop being soft you big tart

by **Big Niall** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:45 pm

thankfully Benitez has GUARANTEED us 4th, FACT!

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:05 pm

Big Niall wrote:thankfully Benitez has GUARANTEED us 4th, FACT!

that guarantee means as much to me as the warrantry on a fake pair of Oakleys I got given.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:28 pm

As pessimistic as I feel if you look at the remaining fixtures objectively the situation looks almost achievable.

Liverpool
Fulham (h)
West Ham (h)
Burnley (a)
Chelsea (h)
Hull (a)

Estimate - 4 wins, 1 loss - 12 points

Tottenham
Arsenal (h)
Chelsea (h)
Man Utd (a)
Bolton (h)
Man City (a)
Burnley (a)

Estimate - 2 wins, 3 loss, 1 draw - 7 points

Man City
Birmingham (h)
Man Utd (h)
Arsenal (a)
Aston Villa (h)
Tottenham (h)
West Ham (a)

Estimate - 3 wins, 2 loss, 1 draw - 9 points

Our run in is by far the easiest on paper. More home games and only one team in the top 7 to play. Essentially we need Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea to all beat Man City or Tottenham on their respective games (as seen in the above estimates). If the above were to happen the league would look like this come mid May

4 Man City 68
5 Liverpool 67
6 Tottenham 65

For us to stand any chance we have to also beat Chelsea.

by **niny8** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:16 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
niny8 wrote:If we can't manage to beat Birmingham I can't see why should we pray for others to lose points... I mean, they may lose some points but the problem remains in Liverpool not taking advantage on that

None of the top teams have beaten Birmingham at their place

but still, at this point if we're starting to pray for other teams to lose we can't say 'oh others lost points there too, so it's fine'.. I mean, is not fine that we don't win our remaining games when we don't even depend on ourselves..

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