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RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:So if we our led to believe Gerrard is actually the receiver of  regular pain injections before each game ,seriously    lets put things straight before this rumour builds up any real pace with the more susceptible amongst us ,firstly no club would administer injections  to the extent that some are suggesting if they knew they would be in serious danger of seriously hampering a players long term career ,it just would not be ethical regardless of the players insistence that they take such  drastic measures ,such actions would be highly negligent in the extreme and have serious repercussions

Secondly and for me the one that rings true ,do posters honestly think that Gerrard knowing even with the boost that these injections give to his troublesome groin ,he would actually take to the field knowing he would be unable to compete fully in the capacity he is used to ,sorry Gerrard is at the highest level a competitor of the highest degree ,anything less than knowing he could not play a game at 100% commitment would not suffice ....

Thirdly and from his own perspective do people truly believe he would knowingly put his own career in such peril by taking these injections in such  frightening  quantities ,not a chance Stevie would simply never put at risk his health regardless of aiding  Liverpool's now futile fight for European qualification,its just  pure conjecture and speculation unless that is a poster wants to provide the relevant proof of such revelations    because if they do proffer some shred of evidence identifying such questionable practices then I will endeavour to stifle my Laughter just long enough to issue an apology

Bad Bob wrote:Right, so it's much more reasonable to believe that a lad who's given everything to the club over the course of his career is suddenly no longer ar.sed and is now prepared to go through the motions until the World Cup comes around?  How is that even remotely as credible as the injury scenario?

Just as I don't think Rafa is a conniving schemer who's di.cking the club over to satisfy some personal megalomania (as some 'creative thinkers' have suggested), I equally don't think Steven Gerrard is some stroppy egotist who's deliberately half-a.ssing things to save himself for South Africa or to force out his manager. 

I guess indulging in conspiracy theories must be fun for some but I prefer the more logical explanations, even if they're a little less dramatic.

s@int wrote:To inject or not to inject? Steven Gerrard will know the story of Tommy Smith, another Liverpool midfielder who, in a less cautious era, had so many injections in his knee that he needed operations – paid for by the Professional Footballers' Association – when he finished playing. In fact, his plight became the rallying call for the PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor when his union threatened strike action six years ago over their share of television revenue. Smith's knees were symbolic, in a surreal sort of way, of how a player can give up his long-term health for the short-term good of his team

Dr Panther said "anecdotal, apocryphal stories" of cortisone ruining careers were history. "It's safe in small doses, which is how it is given these days. Large doses over a long period, especially in the same area, may have led to softening of cartilage and bone and chronic problems in the past.
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s@int wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:

s@int wrote:Steven Gerrard was today definitely ruled out of England's World Cup squad. Gerrard visited a specialist yesterday and scans have since confirmed the need for surgery on his groin injury. He will undergo the surgery later this week.

Gerrard said on Liverpool's official website, www.liverpoolfc.tv: "The rehabilitation period for this sort of operation is six weeks, so obviously I'm going to miss the World Cup which is a massive disappointment.

"However, I need to get myself right as I wouldn't have been able to do myself or the team justice.

"In the short term it's a big blow, but I'm confident this surgery means I'll be involved in other major tournaments for the national side in the future.

"I want to send all the England lads my best wishes for the tournament and let them know I'll be cheering them on from home.

"My priority now has to be to get myself fit for the start of next season with Liverpool."
 

Been waiting to hear that from the Lad for a while Saint ,but its certainly took its own sweet  time coming especially as its took him so long to admit he hasn't been able to perform at his own exceptionally high standards ,but I am glad its getting rectified now the solution took a hell of a long time coming and that is something I would blame (ARE YOU SITTING DOWN COMFORTABLY ) the management with

From 2002 mate 

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s@int wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:

s@int wrote:Steven Gerrard was today definitely ruled out of England's World Cup squad. Gerrard visited a specialist yesterday and scans have since confirmed the need for surgery on his groin injury. He will undergo the surgery later this week.

Gerrard said on Liverpool's official website, www.liverpoolfc.tv: "The rehabilitation period for this sort of operation is six weeks, so obviously I'm going to miss the World Cup which is a massive disappointment.

"However, I need to get myself right as I wouldn't have been able to do myself or the team justice.

"In the short term it's a big blow, but I'm confident this surgery means I'll be involved in other major tournaments for the national side in the future.

"I want to send all the England lads my best wishes for the tournament and let them know I'll be cheering them on from home.

"My priority now has to be to get myself fit for the start of next season with Liverpool."
 

Been waiting to hear that from the Lad for a while Saint ,but its certainly took its own sweet  time coming especially as its took him so long to admit he hasn't been able to perform at his own exceptionally high standards ,but I am glad its getting rectified now the solution took a hell of a long time coming and that is something I would blame (ARE YOU SITTING DOWN COMFORTABLY ) the management with

From 2002 mate 

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bunglemark2 wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:He's been well below his usual, and at times he hasn't put the expected effort in. However much of that is accounted for by his groin problems, I'm convinced some of it is caused by the state the team is in and the fact that we're out of every competition we started in. For the most ambitious players and especially him, going from the highs of last season to the lows of this one, must have some effect. 

But, for what he's done for us over the years, and for his general level of performance (set up our two best chances to equalise yesterday for instance) and ability, the criticism he receives is disproportionate e.g. imploring Rafa to drop him. Simply, too much focus on him and not enough on the real causes of our decline.

Cack, mate. Pure rubbish !
Whatever is going on at boardroom level has absolutely FECKALL, a resounding Zilch, to do with the performance on the pitch. Gerrard is there to propel a small round ball into the opposition net as frequently as possible, and preferably more often than the opposition does it in reverse.
If he can't focus on THAT, then he needs help in sorting out his priorities...

Oh, and before you say he can't carry the team on his own.....he IS the captain after all....it is incumbent on him to kick his teammates up the hole on a regular basis if they are not cutting it....

where did he mention the board room stuff 

s@int wrote:From reading articles its clear that Gerrard HAS been receiving injections before England games AND before training with Liverpool. Whether he has received too many, or not enough, or even any at all before games, the point is its obvious that he is playing with an injury and as such its the managers decision whether he is performing to the best of his PRESENT capabilities. If he is not , he should have been dropped ..... even risking the backlash of criticism on an internet forum. So I stand by my view that either the manager is satisfied that Gerrard is doing the best he can under the circumstances, or the manager is not doing his job.

 

Kop skipper Steven Gerrard also managed light training yesterday after being given a pain-killing injection.

Gerrard’s fitness will be closely monitored over the weekend and he too could be patched up and sent out to face Birmingham.

From 1998