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by **kazza** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:26 am

Ben Patrick wrote:Stop talking rubbish.

None of the lads that have been banned want Liverpool to lose, criticising things when we have been that poor this season is only natural.
But even if everyone of their posts are negative and critical of the manager as long as they are not abusive towards another member then they should be allowed to post what they like.
Otherwise its just a dicatatorship.
Now it might p!ss you off that some are always appearing to moan, but the reason they are moaning is because what they are witnessing is nowhere near good enough.
If you and others think that the manager can get us there fine.
I disagree but if everytime you post its supporting your beliefs - am ok with that.
Why cant others be ok with the fact that alot of people think this season has been a million miles from what LFC should be achieving both in results and performances ?

So because you disagree with me I am "talking rubbish" even though some (I never said all) posters WERE banned due to wishing the team to lose and abuse towards player and manager. Well as a member I am glad supersub took control because it became open season on anyone that still supported the club (remember "superfan") and the balance needed to be addressed considering 10% of the posters were making 90% of the posts and all in general unison (Rafa is not good enough). Whether you agree or not, my opinion is it was suffocating the forum.

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:34 am

Kazza you know the people i am talking about so lets not get silly.
Superfan i assume is mick ? Well to my knowledge the people like mick and saint have never wanted the team to lose.
Anyone who openly states they do i could understand a ban.
Although if you read Brian Reades book he in the Souness era wanted us to lose so we could get rid of him and get back to where we belonged. And i dont doubt reades credentials as a fan at all.
Now if the majority of the posts were of the theme rafa is not good enough, imo this is because the fans that think he is were and are having a harder time proving he is.
I think that this has boiled over to frustration and the good posters that are critical of the manager have been banned or had posting rights removed because of this.
You may think mick sounds arrogant or whatever with how he posts, but he doesnt call the manager names or call posters names. He just gives his opinion.
And his opinion is one that bothers the people behind the manager.
To me its a case of the truth hurts mate.

by **tubby** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:12 pm

Redman in wales wrote:ok... now i need to change my avatar....

edit: done

oi change it again I had this one first

by **Redman in wales** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:24 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Redman in wales wrote:ok... now i need to change my avatar....

edit: done

oi change it again I had this one first

make me

only joking... will do mate - was trying to find the one i had before of king kenny, but couldn't find it. ... will try again

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:44 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
kazza wrote:
s@int wrote:Most regular posters have seen what supersub has been doing over the past few months, bullying, carding and banning people for no real reason. He insults people and when they reply they are carded or banned, and now his latest trick is removing their posting rights. The only thing that has surprised me over the past few weeks is that so many people have been willing to shut their eyes to what has been happening and said nothing(Apart from in PM). Presumably the mods agree with what he is doing or at least value being a mod higher than speaking out. While for the rest general apathy (or fear of being banned)has been the order of the day.

Maybe he (and some of those that showed apathy) just got sick of logging on everyday and reading negative cr@p written by the same people over and over again about the team they love. That is not football debate but rather (destructive) criticism, especially when it resorted to personal insults to the manager and players as well as wishing the team would lose. There was nothing healthy about the way things were.

Frankly reading few posts last few days was better than that.

Stop talking rubbish.

None of the lads that have been banned want Liverpool to lose, criticising things when we have been that poor this season is only natural.
But even if everyone of their posts are negative and critical of the manager as long as they are not abusive towards another member then they should be allowed to post what they like.
Otherwise its just a dicatatorship.
Now it might p!ss you off that some are always appearing to moan, but the reason they are moaning is because what they are witnessing is nowhere near good enough.
If you and others think that the manager can get us there fine.
I disagree but if everytime you post its supporting your beliefs - am ok with that.
Why cant others be ok with the fact that alot of people think this season has been a million miles from what LFC should be achieving both in results and performances ?

So let me get this straight; you're saying that saint and bigmick are above criticism but rafa isn't. The further point to that would be that those two are more important to the people of this board that the manager of the team we are all here to "support".

You deluded chimp.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:49 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:Kazza you know the people i am talking about so lets not get silly.
Superfan i assume is mick ? Well to my knowledge the people like mick and saint have never wanted the team to lose.
Anyone who openly states they do i could understand a ban.
Although if you read Brian Reades book he in the Souness era wanted us to lose so we could get rid of him and get back to where we belonged. And i dont doubt reades credentials as a fan at all.
Now if the majority of the posts were of the theme rafa is not good enough, imo this is because the fans that think he is were and are having a harder time proving he is.
I think that this has boiled over to frustration and the good posters that are critical of the manager have been banned or had posting rights removed because of this.
You may think mick sounds arrogant or whatever with how he posts, but he doesnt call the manager names or call posters names. He just gives his opinion.
And his opinion is one that bothers the people behind the manager.
To me its a case of the truth hurts mate.

So kazzas opinions are "rubbish" and mick's are "the truth" now?

I think at some point you really should go back to school and pay attention to those people who stand at the front of the class...

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:56 pm

Lando, i didnt say they are right.

Give ye head a wobble.

I said that they have been banned for voicing there opinions.

Thats the whole issue here.
Who is to say who is right, i think they are, you dont.
Thats fine, but its not fine them getting banned because their opinion is different than a mods.

by **heimdall** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:23 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:Lando, i didnt say they are right.

Give ye head a wobble.

I said that they have been banned for voicing there opinions.

Thats the whole issue here.
Who is to say who is right, i think they are, you dont.
Thats fine, but its not fine them getting banned because their opinion is different than a mods.

I don't know the exact circumstances but I presume that they were banned because they dared to stand up to the one I'm not allowed to mention.

This forum doesn't promote free speech any more and that is very sad in my opinion as it used to be a fantastic forum.

There are many people on this forum who's views I very rarely agree with but I will fight to the bitter end for their right to voice them, it's a shame that spirit isn't shared by all!
The only thing I have ever objected too are when posters mock and verbally attack other posters but that seems to be absolutely ok these days as long as you toe the party line.

Do you guys honestly imagine that I wouldn't be instantly banned if I came out with some of the abusive language which I've had to suffer over the years?

by **supersub** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:36 pm

just to re-iterate...nobody was banned for different footballing views...sadly it appears deliberate mis-information has more forum appeal than the endeavours of Liverpool football club...

by **Roger Red Hat** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:36 pm

what the fk is live chat?

by **supersub** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:37 pm

Lee J wrote:what the fk is live chat?

the opposite of dead silence

by **Roger Red Hat** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:37 pm

oh righto, I thought we had a new 'live chatroom' on here for a minute.

by **roberto green** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:47 pm

Lee J wrote:oh righto, I thought we had a new 'live chatroom' on here for a minute.

We do have live chat but don't go in there cos Nanny is getting it on on with a big dyke she has been meeting.

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:54 pm

Lee J wrote:oh righto, I thought we had a new 'live chatroom' on here for a minute.

we do

by **LFC2007** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:56 pm

heimdall wrote:I will fight to the bitter end..etc..

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