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Dundalk wrote:I think Klinsmann would do a great job for us..............









































Up front instead of..............Voronin 

puroresu wrote:I never bought into the "vorinin is on a free so we cant really lose" chat which many were using when he was signed.  free or not its irrelevant if the player isnt any good.  His awful and has no place in a liverpool side.  Offers very little.  I think crouch is a gone if the club gets an offer they want.  He rarely plays and there must be a reason behind it.

I remember the stats, five goals in 45 appearances for Ukraine, that's . If we buy two good strikers in the transfer window we could conceivably put together a winning run, at the moment Torres' goals alone aren't enough.

Our form is P10 W3 D4 L3 and in that run of 10 games our strikers have managed :-

Torres - 6 goals in 8 appearances (0.750 goals/app)
Crouch - 1 goal in 5 appearances (0.200 goals/app)
Kuyt - 1 goal in 8 appearances (0.125 goals/app)
Voronin 0 goals in 5 appearances (0.000 goals/app)

So Crouch, Voronin and Kuyt have chipped in with two goals in 18 appearances and Torres has scored three times as many goals in less than half the appearances. In those last ten games the Liverpool record with the respective strikers in the team has been :-

Kuyt - P8 W3 D4 L1
Torres - P8 W3 D3 L2
Voronin - P5 W1 D2 L2
Crouch - P5 W0 D2 L3

So whether you like Kuyt or not, the team has done better with him and Torres in the side, although in fairness to Crouch he did play against two of the top three sides and silly batstard got himself sent off so missed two Liverpool wins. Did Liverpool win because or in spite of his absence? Million dollar question, the answer normally depends on whether you like Crouch or don't. Two of the three Liverpool wins came with Kuyt and Torres starting, the other with Voronin (against Derby where we struggled)

Do you realise our best run of wins is three in a row in the league? And that in the middle of an unbeaten run of 14 games. We're now in a run of three draws in a row, we avoided three losses in a row - those two losses ironically fell in the middle of seven games without a draw, ironic given our current run of form.

Ciggy wrote:Can someone please explain why this player is playing for us?

He is supposed to be a striker but is never in the box.

He gets picked more than Crouch who offers more of a goal threat than him.

He has been sh!te the last few months and would struggle to even get a start for Wigan.

So why the fuck is he playing for LFC?

Ive never done this never even when Cisse was slated even when he scored 21 goals more than this clown offers.
Kuyt or Baros Ive never disliked them either but they have been slated to death but Voronin come on what was Rafa thinking getting him?

Its not my style until today Ive seen enough I hope he is sold or goes out on loan this month and he never puts on the red shirt again.

Ciggy wrote:Only good thing to come out of this is rafa will finally realise how sh!te Voronin is and will be forced to make the correct choice of playing Babel upfront with Torres.