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by **Pablo_Escobar** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:55 pm

I supported Rafa through thick (not many of them) and thin times but the last couple of month have been nothing but a disaster for us and we need a fresh breath of air, also in the manager area.
Thanks Rafa for some wonderfull memories but now it's time to move on.

by **stmichael** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:03 pm

so much speculation around at the moment. some rumours claim he's going to walk next week.

by **bunglemark2** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:34 pm

stmichael wrote:so much speculation around at the moment. some rumours claim he's going to walk next week.

With the injury news today, I doubt he'll walk - that'd look really bad in the future to other clubs.
Then there's the small matter of a huge payout if they give him the chop...

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:39 pm

loopyliverpool wrote:Just logged on and am simply amazed that all the Rafa lovers still stand by their man!

If you don't like it, then f*ck off. Pure and simple.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:43 pm

REDTILLDEAD wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Well in my view, your view is wrong.

Well in most fans eyes........your Living on another fukking planet!!......wake up and smell the coffee Lad!.

You're living in dream world if you think that this board represents most fans.

Maybe you should stop reading the papers and listening to idiot pundits.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:45 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Maybe they persuaded a player to come and sign because they dont care who the manager is next season or for the rest of this season.
Because LFC is a great club with great fans etc ?

Its not always about Rafa Lando.

By the way i love the way you just spout loads of insulting rubbish when you try and make a point.
Two people on here have called Rafa what you said not all of the people that are suggesting its time he moves on.
Most of us have agreed that its out of order calling him that.
One person called Mourinho a master tactician.
I dont think he is, what i do think he has in bundles that our manager doesnt though is man management.
He would instill some belief in these players and get them fired up (IMHO)

But then again i am one of the imbeciles so you will probably ignore this.

Did I say you had said it? No.

Did I say every anti had said it? No.

Did I say more than 1 person had called that c*nt a master tactician? No.

So you're right - I WILL ignore you as you're talking b*llocks.

No but you generalised.
You said the anti's, i am anti, i am calling for his head so its easy to conclude why i felt part of your pathetic tirade was about me.

You need to grow up lad, and thats not trying to getting some argument over the net.
Its ridiculous that you cant defend the manager without resorting to what you do.
My guess is you couldnt even back it up if it wasnt online but thats irrelevant.

It is a football forum where people will post opinions, post yours and get on with it without all your usual shabite.[/quote]
Simpleton.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:49 pm

loke wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Whelan likes Kenny for the job, even MCaTeer is getting bored with Rafa. You can't blame them, they can see whats happening to the team.

RAFA is less than 10% to blame? How do you work out the percentage he is to blame?

The players dont wanna play for him, he has brought the wrong players, we are out of everything we were in. If EVER there was time for change it's now.

Lando, I gotta commend your stance but you're just being stubborn now and you gots to open them eyes

How do you conclude that the players don't want to play for him? The effort was there for all to see!
The point about Torres and Mascherano getting Maxi in no matter who is the gaffer is complete a*se aswell, as Mascherano wants to leave!

SHAKE YOUR HEADS!!!

This media campaign is getting ridiculous now, as well. They can all f*ck off with their dirty little agendas.

Sorry but I'm confused, why do the media want to get rid of Rafa, apart form the obvious reason that they want to see Liverpool playing good football again.

BTW I didn't see the effort from the players, so it wasn't for all too see. In any case if they were putting in the effort then why did we not win, are they untalented_ If they are untalented then who's fault is that? Surely you can't claim that Reading have more funds and a better squad than us?

No the answer is simple,Rafa is a cancer who will kill the whole club if he is not cut out immediately, with Rafa we will not get 4th, Stevie, Torres, Mascha and reina will leave and we will be mid/table for many many years to come.

I get carded but this ^ goes unpunished?

Are we f*cking real on here or what?
F*ck the lot of you - I'm not wasting any more time trying to educate tools.

by **Roger Red Hat** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:53 pm

would we have to pay him owt if the board sacked him? I mean, if I get sacked from work I get nowt. Your not telling me that rafa has a contract that states if he doesn't perform to the required level and gets booted we have to pay him sh!t loadsa money? seriousley?

by **Roger Red Hat** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:55 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
loke wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Whelan likes Kenny for the job, even MCaTeer is getting bored with Rafa. You can't blame them, they can see whats happening to the team.

RAFA is less than 10% to blame? How do you work out the percentage he is to blame?

The players dont wanna play for him, he has brought the wrong players, we are out of everything we were in. If EVER there was time for change it's now.

Lando, I gotta commend your stance but you're just being stubborn now and you gots to open them eyes

How do you conclude that the players don't want to play for him? The effort was there for all to see!
The point about Torres and Mascherano getting Maxi in no matter who is the gaffer is complete a*se aswell, as Mascherano wants to leave!

SHAKE YOUR HEADS!!!

This media campaign is getting ridiculous now, as well. They can all f*ck off with their dirty little agendas.

Sorry but I'm confused, why do the media want to get rid of Rafa, apart form the obvious reason that they want to see Liverpool playing good football again.

BTW I didn't see the effort from the players, so it wasn't for all too see. In any case if they were putting in the effort then why did we not win, are they untalented_ If they are untalented then who's fault is that? Surely you can't claim that Reading have more funds and a better squad than us?

No the answer is simple,Rafa is a cancer who will kill the whole club if he is not cut out immediately, with Rafa we will not get 4th, Stevie, Torres, Mascha and reina will leave and we will be mid/table for many many years to come.

I get carded but this ^ goes unpunished?

Are we f*cking real on here or what?
F*ck the lot of you - I'm not wasting any more time trying to educate tools.

maybe it was the abusive way you went about it and the use of all that unessesary bad language

just a thought like.

by **NANNY RED** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:37 pm

taff wrote:Im angry after last night and at a low but I still support Rafa. And I dont give a **** what anybody thinks about that, the guy was shellshocked and in a temper last night and I still think he can get us out of this mess while under the financial mess we are currently in.

I know everybody will think its nuts but cest la vie In Rafa I trust

Nice one lad :nod

by **bunglemark2** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:39 pm

Lee J wrote:would we have to pay him owt if the board sacked him? I mean, if I get sacked from work I get nowt. Your not telling me that rafa has a contract that states if he doesn't perform to the required level and gets booted we have to pay him sh!t loadsa money? seriousley?

Yep, that's about the sum of it....they all have it. Dunno what it would mean for the backroom staff though....Hell, the lad in charge of the Youth Team is doing a good job and he'd be free

by **Masch79** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:00 pm

loke wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
BTW I can't believe we were all as fans so excited to see Aquaman play, I actually now forgive Rafa for delaying his debut, he is worse than Lucas ffs!

its statements like this i was referring to for the record

So you think he was a star player then? I#m being serious we paid a lot of money for a player who has been injured half the season and we finally see twinkle toes he has no idea how to control a football or how to tackle an opposing player. So far I am very unimpressed with Aquaman, although I have to say that Lucas is getting a bit better but it's kind of like saying one fart smells less bad than another.

just ignore this guy he'd a feckin idiot. i've seen some :censored:

tonight but "rafa is a cancer" "aquaman can't control a football" etc etc the guys full of it. He only joined today i reckon he's just on a wind up, probably a manc.

feck off lad. :rasp

by **Scottbot** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:01 pm

loopyliverpool wrote:Just logged on and am simply amazed that all the Rafa lovers still stand by their man! Has this forum become a place where people forget foobtall and its beauty and all the things that make us care about it and instead has become a place where people support abject failure because that's the bus that will take them to their personal 'promised land'? I think it's madness to support a manager who has managed to manufacture a team of such ugliness that to watch them play and highlight the failure is of more interest than anything else. To watch our failings as a club HURTS and when 'supporters' support this man for his failings I am at a loss to know where they think it will all end. To go out of competitions with style would be more acceptable than going out with clueless tactics, football, management and ultimately players. Give him his payday, get rid of, bring in Kenny and lets see if we can actually play football again!!!!

It's not really that hard to believe is it? I've got a lot of respect for those that are showing loyalty to the manager. I've lost faith myself and have been feeling that way for the past 4-5 weeks tbh but modern day football has become very short term where by this season's disastrous campaign has completely wiped out the memory of a very exciting (albeit unsuccessful) season last time around. There are still plenty of fans around (although the list is dwindling) who fancy that if we can finish 4th this season (obviously the absolute minimum) that it is not inconceivable that next season (should the manager be retained) could more closely resemble our 08/09 campaign. It's not how i'm thinking but fair play to them. I think there is (thankfully) a core of support on here who (like me) have lost faith but do not want to boot the boot in, or be disrespectful to a manager who has provided us with some truly memorable nights in his time at the club.

I think the reaction (from so many on here) to Rafa's post match interview last night is a joke. Are we all that surprised that he doesn't come out crying his eyes out and sticking the boot into his players in public? It just isn't his way. I'm quite sure he realises we're playimng like a complete shower of shi.....te but he doesn't know how to fix it.

by **terry66** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:01 pm

We must stick with Rafa, how much would we lose getting rid???

by **puroresu** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:01 pm

There is no defense for Rafa. This season has been a disgrace. When was the last time we actually played well? Man Utd at home is the last game I remember which was months ago. There is no way we will get 4th. Were out of the CL and got outplayed by Reading twice. Twice outplayed by an average championship side. No excuses for all this.

I hate the Yanks and want them gone but you cant pin all this on them. The buck stops with the Manager and its time he now went. We might not get 4th with a new boss but we aint finishing 4th with Rafa in charge.

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