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by shawnk » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:52 am
Red Hot Mama wrote:RIP LFC. Haven't been on here for a long time. I Prefer to read what everyone has to say BUT tonight I have been brought to tears watching the team that I have supported all my life. Shankly, God Bless him would be turning in his grave watching this team of overpaid second rate imposters. With the exception of Gerrard and Torres I would sack the lot of them along with the overated so called manager. I feel that I have sunk to the very lowest point now. I know that I will be slated by the hardened posters on here but I honestly cant see any one of you come on here and find a positive. We put out the strongest possible team tonight and were beaten by a struggling championship side. I will never stop supporting my club but think we should all be wearing a black armband tomorrow in mourning for the club we were.
You have my support.
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by slickrick » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:58 am
someone came on the other day and was saying they'd rather have benny in a team ahead of giggs, giggs might be gettin old but at least he has a football brain and the cop on to not try tackle someone in the box who has his back to our goal and going no where, absolutely shocking performance, and for those thinking about finishing in the top 4, there's not a chance of that happening, we won't catch chelsea, manure or arsenal and city are improving and are gonna challenge for the league never mind 4th
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by anti-hero » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:38 am
its hard to say. but its obvious that on field results infinitely matter more to the supporters than the off field boardroom fracas upstairs. and that's where it should matter anyways.
its the result on the pitch, earned with the sweat off the player's back that have been and always will be the force that continues to drive the club on to success. i say that maybe, just maybe, the focus of the club as a whole has shifted to the matters off of the pitch. matters that deal with the building of a new stadium, matters that deal with money, with sponsorships, with owners, matters that deal with players, purchased, sold or loaned; matters that deal with the thought that resides in the back of our heads - namely the ascent of other english clubs, and our struggle to keep up with our traditional rivals.
maybe, it has all been lost in translation.
maybe the club, and those charged to uphold its rich and powerful history, have lost themselves in the accounting books and matters of other clubs that they have forgotten what really matters most. the result on the pitch, is the the only thing that can redeem anyone in football.
the very legacy of the club is endangered with every embarrassment that we've endured so far this season. the sooner that everyone, the shadows that live in the boardroom especially, remember that anfield was a place that teams never looked forward to visiting, a place where they feared to play football, let alone against a wall of sound and eleven DEDICATED men decked in red, the sooner things will change at the club.
the day that they accomplish that, will be the day that they would have redeemed themselves; in the eyes of the people who really matter, us.
its the result on the pitch, earned with the sweat off the player's back that have been and always will be the force that continues to drive the club on to success. i say that maybe, just maybe, the focus of the club as a whole has shifted to the matters off of the pitch. matters that deal with the building of a new stadium, matters that deal with money, with sponsorships, with owners, matters that deal with players, purchased, sold or loaned; matters that deal with the thought that resides in the back of our heads - namely the ascent of other english clubs, and our struggle to keep up with our traditional rivals.
maybe, it has all been lost in translation.
maybe the club, and those charged to uphold its rich and powerful history, have lost themselves in the accounting books and matters of other clubs that they have forgotten what really matters most. the result on the pitch, is the the only thing that can redeem anyone in football.
the very legacy of the club is endangered with every embarrassment that we've endured so far this season. the sooner that everyone, the shadows that live in the boardroom especially, remember that anfield was a place that teams never looked forward to visiting, a place where they feared to play football, let alone against a wall of sound and eleven DEDICATED men decked in red, the sooner things will change at the club.
the day that they accomplish that, will be the day that they would have redeemed themselves; in the eyes of the people who really matter, us.
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by Owzat » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:54 am
While our second half performance was not bad, we didn't carve open their defence and create chance after chance. Our two goals in the two games were an own goal and a free-kick that went straight in because of Kuyt's distracting run. Benayoun was 1-on-1 and made a real mess of his shot, N'Gog got a half opening that he hit straight at the keeper and this was all against a side who may celebrate a Premiership scalp, but I bet they would rather stay in the Championship.
We scored one against league one lids, they could and maybe should have won. Against a poor Debrecen side that the rest of our CL group beat by scoring four or five against, we scored one goal in each game (2x 1-0) For the record here are our CL group qualified teams' current league standings.
France
1. Bordeaux P19 PTS 43 (GD +20)
6. LYON P19 PTS 30 (GD +5)
Italy
1. Inter P19 PTS 45 (GD +24)
6. FIORENTINA P18 PTS 30 (GD +8)
Fiorentina would leap into 3rd if they won their game in hand, but would still be TWELVE points off the top of Serie A. Lyon are a whopping THIRTEEN points off the top of a pretty ordinary league, while 45 points off 19 games compares well with Chelsea's 45 off 20 games, it is a much weaker league and Bordeaux have lost four games. Lyon have only won eight games in the French League, they've won only THREE of their nine away games in the league so what does that say about us losing to them at Anfield.....................................?
To "What if...?" I add, "we changed the manager and thereby changed tactics, substitutions, transfers (very hit and miss), man management etc" It's much the same players as last season, even though we had a depleted side for the second half it should still have been good enough for a decent manager to lead to a win over a team a division below us and given we were 1-0 up at half time. I wonder if Rafa had a tactic, or just assumed we'd beat Reading and like always there was no plan B. What usually passes for plan B is taking off the LM and bringing on Aurelio/Babel/Benayoun/Riera (our version is ABBR not ABBA) That said the players should have tried opening up their defence instead of trying to play through it or hoofing the ball long, that we got any kind of possession was a miracle. But that said (counter to the previous 'that said') isn't it up to the manager to direct his team with instructions like "get the f in football out wide. Maybe he should teach them that the pitch is wider than the 18 yard box as some seem to play like it isn't.
At times I thought we looked a lot better without Gerrard and Torres on, but then we'd do some fancy dan backheel, pass to someone who was marked or try dribbling through defenders. There was potential, but our players got carried away with themselves and didn't apply enough basics. But with some basic finishing skills perhaps Benayoun would have curled the ball over the keeper or gone round him when 1-on-1, arguably the best goalscoring opportunity of the tie bar of course the penalty.
Can I expect Rafa to come out and say "our season starts here" ?
We scored one against league one lids, they could and maybe should have won. Against a poor Debrecen side that the rest of our CL group beat by scoring four or five against, we scored one goal in each game (2x 1-0) For the record here are our CL group qualified teams' current league standings.
France
1. Bordeaux P19 PTS 43 (GD +20)
6. LYON P19 PTS 30 (GD +5)
Italy
1. Inter P19 PTS 45 (GD +24)
6. FIORENTINA P18 PTS 30 (GD +8)
Fiorentina would leap into 3rd if they won their game in hand, but would still be TWELVE points off the top of Serie A. Lyon are a whopping THIRTEEN points off the top of a pretty ordinary league, while 45 points off 19 games compares well with Chelsea's 45 off 20 games, it is a much weaker league and Bordeaux have lost four games. Lyon have only won eight games in the French League, they've won only THREE of their nine away games in the league so what does that say about us losing to them at Anfield.....................................?
To "What if...?" I add, "we changed the manager and thereby changed tactics, substitutions, transfers (very hit and miss), man management etc" It's much the same players as last season, even though we had a depleted side for the second half it should still have been good enough for a decent manager to lead to a win over a team a division below us and given we were 1-0 up at half time. I wonder if Rafa had a tactic, or just assumed we'd beat Reading and like always there was no plan B. What usually passes for plan B is taking off the LM and bringing on Aurelio/Babel/Benayoun/Riera (our version is ABBR not ABBA) That said the players should have tried opening up their defence instead of trying to play through it or hoofing the ball long, that we got any kind of possession was a miracle. But that said (counter to the previous 'that said') isn't it up to the manager to direct his team with instructions like "get the f in football out wide. Maybe he should teach them that the pitch is wider than the 18 yard box as some seem to play like it isn't.
At times I thought we looked a lot better without Gerrard and Torres on, but then we'd do some fancy dan backheel, pass to someone who was marked or try dribbling through defenders. There was potential, but our players got carried away with themselves and didn't apply enough basics. But with some basic finishing skills perhaps Benayoun would have curled the ball over the keeper or gone round him when 1-on-1, arguably the best goalscoring opportunity of the tie bar of course the penalty.
Can I expect Rafa to come out and say "our season starts here" ?
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by andy_g » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:20 am
the question i was asking in this thread wasn't meant to be about the players or the manager. it was about the owners.
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