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by **Sir Roger** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:56 am

When we look back on Rafas time and see where it went wrong some of us will believe it was in his first season that the seeds of his failure were sown. For me he did a Souness and made too many sweeping changes without keeping a seasoned premiership assistant to guide and advise him about the league.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:57 am

J*o*n*D*o*e wrote:
REDTILLDEAD wrote:
roberto green wrote:
Ciggy wrote:From the horses mouth well not a horse but Ryan babel.

This video is in dutch but 2 minutes in he says Liverpool havent got the money to sack Rafa even if they wanted to.

http://www.sportweek.nl/voetbal....ar_Ajax

Ryan Babel would love Rafa to get sacked too I bet ya

Sack him now!........never mind all this bollox about " not being able to afford to"......can we afford to watch our once great team and club go down hill with no breaks on!......no we cant but thats where that fukkin waiter is taking us!!....and take sammy lee with yer Rafa....along with all the mediocre you have brought to this once great club.

who are you calling a waiter, show some fooking respect, were all upset but there is no need for that from a red.

Just exactly the type of pleb fanbase we are becoming.

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:00 am

Emerald Red wrote:
J*o*n*D*o*e wrote:
REDTILLDEAD wrote:
roberto green wrote:
Ciggy wrote:From the horses mouth well not a horse but Ryan babel.

This video is in dutch but 2 minutes in he says Liverpool havent got the money to sack Rafa even if they wanted to.

http://www.sportweek.nl/voetbal....ar_Ajax

Ryan Babel would love Rafa to get sacked too I bet ya

Sack him now!........never mind all this bollox about " not being able to afford to"......can we afford to watch our once great team and club go down hill with no breaks on!......no we cant but thats where that fukkin waiter is taking us!!....and take sammy lee with yer Rafa....along with all the mediocre you have brought to this once great club.

who are you calling a waiter, show some fooking respect, were all upset but there is no need for that from a red.

Just exactly the type of pleb fanbase we are becoming.

Then take yourself away then!.....or come into the world of Reality.

by **glenbuck patriot** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:23 am

Why a Pleb Fanbase Emerald Red?

We're Liverpool, if you can't overcome the Second Divisions Whipping Boys, A Team that makes you look Second Best in ALL area's on your own Pitch............. what constitutes Pleb's, What constitutes venting your anger on Benitez?

?

I would counter the Benitez Happy Clappers like yourself by saying that only Pleb's are Happy Clapping Benitez............The in Rafa we trust Brigade,like you that are willing to put the rest of the Season and Fourth Place in the hands of a man that has constantly showed this Season he is Not up to the Job.

Bugger the Owners it's his tactics, his team selection, his unwillingness to play pass and move, his will to play square pegs in round holes, that have led to where we are now............. He has lost the Dressing Room that was evident tonight........... How much longer can you condone what is happening......... and Don't blame the Yanks........ I dislike them as much as you, PROBABLY MORE....... but, and here's the BIG BUT, THEY don't pick the Team nor The Tactics........... be like asking my Granny to play x-Box..... rediculous....... but if your JOB ie Benitez is to play X-Box and you can't do it ie Liverpool1-Reading 2 @ Anfield then people are going to ask Questions!

We're asking QUESTIONS......... if you Don't like it Tough!, this is like De Ja Vous, Houllier 2010

by **Gerrard30391** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:23 am

What a pile of wanck! Get the fat spanish bar stewart out by this time tomorrow!

No excuses what so ever!

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:27 am

Gerrard30391 wrote:What a pile of wanck! Get the fat spanish bar stewart out by this time tomorrow!

No excuses what so ever!

Take sammy Lee and all that mediocre sh@te with you!......we never sank this low even under Houillier. :no

by **THEBARON** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:33 am

Rafa's post match comments on ITV highlight a lot of our problems.
He avoided a lot of the questions , choosing to blame the referee and pointing out that we tried hard and had some chances.
Crucially he avoided the question about how poor we are without Torres and Gerrard and that is the crux of the problem.
After 5 years in charge and millions spent he has built a team dependent on 2 players!
With Torres and Gerrard absent there is seemingly nobody good enough to take the mantle.
There are too many players who have largely played below their best who continue to get picked.
There are too many players who are not good enough.
Where do we go from here?

by **Raj_Xedos** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:35 am

REDTILLDEAD wrote:
Gerrard30391 wrote:What a pile of wanck! Get the fat spanish bar stewart out by this time tomorrow!

No excuses what so ever!

Take sammy Lee and all that mediocre sh@te with you!......we never sank this low even under Houillier.

i do understand that we need a change, i think we should be diplomatic about it,

rafa has control of everything, look at all the time and more importantly money has been put into him, although we're disappointed, who is gonna do a better job than rafa.....

we never seem to beat $hit teams....why why why......cus we have ordinary players....! Any team would struggle without Stevie and Nando, but we looked second division!

who would and will replace rafa!? Klinsman?

by **Gerrard30391** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:36 am

THEBARON wrote:Rafa's post match comments on ITV highlight a lot of our problems.
He avoided a lot of the questions , choosing to blame the referee and pointing out that we tried hard and had some chances.
Crucially he avoided the question about how poor we are without Torres and Gerrard and that is the crux of the problem.
After 5 years in charge and millions spent he has built a team dependent on 2 players!
With Torres and Gerrard absent there is seemingly nobody good enough to take the mantle.
There are too many players who have largely played below their best who continue to get picked.
There are too many players who are not good enough.
Where do we go from here?

I can't see past a big reshuffle.

I was all for letting him try and correct it this season, but nothing seems to be changing.

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:39 am

Raj_Xedos wrote:
REDTILLDEAD wrote:
Gerrard30391 wrote:What a pile of wanck! Get the fat spanish bar stewart out by this time tomorrow!

No excuses what so ever!

Take sammy Lee and all that mediocre sh@te with you!......we never sank this low even under Houillier.

i do understand that we need a change, i think we should be diplomatic about it,

rafa has control of everything, look at all the time and more importantly money has been put into him, although we're disappointed, who is gonna do a better job than rafa.....

we never seem to beat $hit teams....why why why......cus we have ordinary players....! Any team would struggle without Stevie and Nando, but we looked second division!

who would and will replace rafa!? Klinsman?

Let Kenny take over till the summer it would give the players and fans a big confidence boost......or sound out Martin O'neil either now or come summer?.

by **THEBARON** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:40 am

A few months ago I was of the same opinion - namely give him until the end of the season. This was based on 2 key things;
1. The lack of a credible and available replacement
2. A naive belief that results would actually improve.
At that time I thought a top 4 finish and a good run in the cup would be just about acceptable.
Now both of these seem impossible.

by **teamleader1** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:41 am

I think the penny must have dropped tonight, even with the most deluded Rafa ites!

by **THEBARON** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:43 am

Where are the pro Rafa brigade this morning?
Their silence is deafening?

by **Sir Roger** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:43 am

We have to win EVERY SINGLE GAME till the end of the season

by **THEBARON** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:46 am

The chances of us winning every game remaining are remote..
Even more so if Torres and Gerrard are out for a few games

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