What extent is sharia already operating in the uk - The times 2009 charles douglas essay

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Postby Kharhaz » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:49 am

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Judge wrote:can anyone answer this - what does it mean to be british ??

base your answers on the knowledge of the history of our nation

Heres a better one, what does it mean to be English?

To celebrate St Patricks day by drinking loads of Guiness and having no idea when St. Georges day is, let or lone celebrate it.

Thats about right. Hell, if we hang his flag outside our house (in England mind) we are committing an offence. Come the world cup then several new prisons will be built to house these offenders !
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Postby Judge » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:32 am

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Judge wrote:can anyone answer this - what does it mean to be british ??

base your answers on the knowledge of the history of our nation

drinking and feckin  bottoms :D

im always in gay bars so feck knows what you are!  :laugh:

im british mate

im with madmax and gay as f'uck and proud of it in my 50pence rooms and the blue oster club bar :nod

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Postby Judge » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:34 am

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bavlondon wrote:I think that group has a history of announcing demonstrations and then withdrawing at the last minute. They are just looking for attention that's all. I doubt it will go ahead.

tell him if he doesnt like England he can always go to Afghanistan and fight with the Taliban Ill pay his flight.

i wouldnt send anyone anywhere to fight our soldiers

i would torture him, and have him dumped in a bath of acid lime
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Postby Madmax » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:03 pm

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bavlondon wrote:I think that group has a history of announcing demonstrations and then withdrawing at the last minute. They are just looking for attention that's all. I doubt it will go ahead.

tell him if he doesnt like England he can always go to Afghanistan and fight with the Taliban Ill pay his flight.

i wouldnt send anyone anywhere to fight our soldiers

i would torture him, and have him dumped in a bath of acid lime

and i would feck him so hard up the a$$ that his going to think he got shagged by a train!

easy there fella we all are aware of your gayness no need to share your perverted fantasies here.
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Postby village » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:22 pm

I am not from the UK, but a lifelong LFC fan.

I think that you have some Sharia courts operating in the UK don't you? I am sure I saw that on the news.

Is that true?
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Postby Number 9 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:56 pm

village wrote:I am not from the UK, but a lifelong LFC fan.

I think that you have some Sharia courts operating in the UK don't you? I am sure I saw that on the news.

Is that true?

Depends on where you live though mate...I guess if you are living in a Muslim country with a dictator who controls whats said on the news it may have been reported....But rest assured there are no legal Sharia courts operating in the UK and never will be.

If it is going on,its behind closed doors and within their own communities...well thats up to them if they want to get involved in prehistoric laws.As long as it does not affect me or anyone I care about they are more than welcome to cut off their tongues,remove their eyes and stone eachother to death!
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:19 pm

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village wrote:I am not from the UK, but a lifelong LFC fan.

I think that you have some Sharia courts operating in the UK don't you? I am sure I saw that on the news.

Is that true?

Depends on where you live though mate...I guess if you are living in a Muslim country with a dictator who controls whats said on the news it may have been reported....But rest assured there are no legal Sharia courts operating in the UK and never will be.

If it is going on,its behind closed doors and within their own communities...well thats up to them if they want to get involved in prehistoric laws.As long as it does not affect me or anyone I care about they are more than welcome to cut off their tongues,remove their eyes and stone eachother to death!

Unfortunately that's wrong. Sharia courts are being backed by the UK legal system. This is the problem.

A paragraph in the original article I quoted make it very clear -

Last year The Sunday Times revealed that “Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with Sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases”.

The courts, known as the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal (MAT), step far beyond their arbitrational remit. They themselves have boasted of having overseen six cases of domestic violence, working in tandem with police investigations. In each case the women who had been the subjects of abuse withdrew their complaints from the police while the MAT judges had suggested that the husbands take anger-management classes and advice from Muslim elders.
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Postby tubby » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:32 pm

It must be just elements of it though SSC, I mean they are not going to start stoning people to death in their own homes or anything barbaric like that. (legally anyway)
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Postby tubby » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:33 pm

Not that this is about Sharia law or anything but an interesting read still.

Police discover children as young as seven being groomed for terrorism
Children in Britain as young as seven have been identified by police as being groomed for terrorism, with some already talking about become suicide bombers

Around 10 primary school pupils, aged between seven and 10, have been referred to a Government scheme to help combat the radicalisation of youngsters.

One child was referred to the Channel Project, a national programme run by the police and Government, after shocking his teachers by writing on a school book: “I want to be a suicide bomber.”

The Channel Project was set up in the wake of the 7th July terrorist attacks in London.

It is operated by the Home Office and the Association of Chief Police Officers, and works with schools, Muslim communities, youth workers and social workers.

Teachers and parents are asked to look out for warning signs and police officers work alongside Muslim communities to identify impressionable children who are at risk of radicalisation or who have shown an interest in extremist material, either on the internet or in books.

In June 2008 the project had identified 10 children at risk of being turned to violence. By March last year that figure had increased to 200.

Currently around 230 young people, mostly men aged between 15-24, have been identified, many of them by their parents because they suddenly changed from wearing Western clothes to strict Islamic dress, or began expressing devout Islamic views.

The British Government has denied claims that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian charged with trying to set off a bomb on a US-bound plane on Christmas Day, was radicalised and recruited by al-Qaeda whilst a student in London.

Files found by detectives are alleged to have shown that Abdulmutallab, 23, had ties to known Islamic radicals while an undergraduate at University College London between 2005 and 2008, where he was president of the Islamic Society.

Craig Denholm, Deputy Chief Constable of Surrey police, who oversees the project, said: “For people to be identified there have to be distinct changes in behaviour and warning signs.

“We assess each one on its own merits.” He said there was a “very small” number of seven, eight, and nine-year-olds involved.

Tactics used to turn youngsters away from extremism and integrate them into mainstream society include football coaching and outdoor adventure courses.
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Postby Number 9 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:36 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
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village wrote:I am not from the UK, but a lifelong LFC fan.

I think that you have some Sharia courts operating in the UK don't you? I am sure I saw that on the news.

Is that true?

Depends on where you live though mate...I guess if you are living in a Muslim country with a dictator who controls whats said on the news it may have been reported....But rest assured there are no legal Sharia courts operating in the UK and never will be.

If it is going on,its behind closed doors and within their own communities...well thats up to them if they want to get involved in prehistoric laws.As long as it does not affect me or anyone I care about they are more than welcome to cut off their tongues,remove their eyes and stone eachother to death!

Unfortunately that's wrong. Sharia courts are being backed by the UK legal system. This is the problem.

A paragraph in the original article I quoted make it very clear -

Last year The Sunday Times revealed that “Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with Sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases”.

The courts, known as the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal (MAT), step far beyond their arbitrational remit. They themselves have boasted of having overseen six cases of domestic violence, working in tandem with police investigations. In each case the women who had been the subjects of abuse withdrew their complaints from the police while the MAT judges had suggested that the husbands take anger-management classes and advice from Muslim elders.

Im not getting too into this mate...but Sharia Courts are not being backed by the British legal system and what you say above does not even state that!

Basically from what that article says you could assume that a woman has been beaten/abused and dropped the charges(probably bullied into doing so),withdrew her allegations and the police were left powerless to act.This would be the same if the woman were Muslim,Hindu,Christian or whatever.

Then this silly MAT take over the case(when legally the case is dead and buried) and "boast" about sorting it out...telling the husband to go see lakes! :D

Anyway they can do what they want to eachother as far as Im concerned
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Postby The Red Baron » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:23 pm

On a more serious note some :censored: knocked the head off my snowman
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Postby tubby » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:45 pm

btw they just said on the news that Islam4UK has cancelled the proposed March. Like I said, they have a history of doing this... It was all just for attention.
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Postby Number 9 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:26 am

bavlondon wrote:btw they just said on the news that Islam4UK has cancelled the proposed March. Like I said, they have a history of doing this... It was all just for attention.

Too afraid of getting hammered more like and having no balls!Not so easy to fight when you cant plant bombs on the side of the road and run away...shower of rancid kunts!
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Postby Judge » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:34 am

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bavlondon wrote:I think that group has a history of announcing demonstrations and then withdrawing at the last minute. They are just looking for attention that's all. I doubt it will go ahead.

tell him if he doesnt like England he can always go to Afghanistan and fight with the Taliban Ill pay his flight.

i wouldnt send anyone anywhere to fight our soldiers

i would torture him, and have him dumped in a bath of acid lime


easy there fella a bit harsh, but fair, however i would feck him so hard up the a$$ that his going to think he got shagged by a train

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Postby tubby » Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:51 am

Why must your insults be so homoerotic. :D
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