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by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:38 pm

Gerrard is poor this season. Kuyt is poor EVERY season. he is consistent when it comes to working hard but that's all.

by **damjan193** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:42 pm

Looks like im the only guy who thinks that Kuyt is Ok, but I gues you guys know better than me.Still... selling him and getting someone like McGeady wont sort our problems out.

by **Emerald Red** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:52 pm

damjan193 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
damjan193 wrote:Come on guys whats wrong with Kuyt?At least he's trying.McGeady is not a bad idea since we dont have any sub for Kuyt, but if McGeady replaces Kuyt, then it will be a bad idea.But wingers are the least of our problems.Should consentrate our money more on strikers then good defenders who could deal with corner kicks and then on good midfield sub players.

You're wrong there, I feel. Kuyt's form this season has been sh*te, and I did say once upon a time that so long as we have Kuyt playing as a winger, we'll never win the league. We need wingers who can beat a man and supply a ball, and even score goals. We just aren't getting enough goals from wide areas. Reira was a step in the right direction, but he has a poor goal scoring return. We needs players that can cut in from wide and either cross or shoot. Berger and McMannaman were the last two we had that did it for us.

Gerrard's form is quite poor this season as well, but I dont see that people want to replace him.Plus, Rafa has something with combining strikers with right wing position (Garcia, Cisse, Kuyt), so he'll probably even do worst if he gets another one to play there.But as I said, even if his form is poor, is not THAT poor so that we start to think about getting someone to play at his position.We have bigger problems at other positions.

The difference is, mate, that I'm not saying Kuyt should be replaced, but he is not a winger. That's the point.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:59 pm

Joe Cole's contract expires this season and he is available on free. he has stated that he wants to stay at SB but perhaps LFC could just try to tempt him.

by **damjan193** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:04 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
damjan193 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
damjan193 wrote:Come on guys whats wrong with Kuyt?At least he's trying.McGeady is not a bad idea since we dont have any sub for Kuyt, but if McGeady replaces Kuyt, then it will be a bad idea.But wingers are the least of our problems.Should consentrate our money more on strikers then good defenders who could deal with corner kicks and then on good midfield sub players.

You're wrong there, I feel. Kuyt's form this season has been sh*te, and I did say once upon a time that so long as we have Kuyt playing as a winger, we'll never win the league. We need wingers who can beat a man and supply a ball, and even score goals. We just aren't getting enough goals from wide areas. Reira was a step in the right direction, but he has a poor goal scoring return. We needs players that can cut in from wide and either cross or shoot. Berger and McMannaman were the last two we had that did it for us.

Gerrard's form is quite poor this season as well, but I dont see that people want to replace him.Plus, Rafa has something with combining strikers with right wing position (Garcia, Cisse, Kuyt), so he'll probably even do worst if he gets another one to play there.But as I said, even if his form is poor, is not THAT poor so that we start to think about getting someone to play at his position.We have bigger problems at other positions.

The difference is, mate, that I'm not saying Kuyt should be replaced, but he is not a winger. That's the point.

Yeah, but It aint his fault that he is playing there.Our dear manager doesnt know that strikers play foward, not as wingers.His best position would be at the place of Gerrard, put Gerrard in the place of Lucas and put Benny at the place of Kuyt.Becouse he doesnt do as well as he can on the position he is now, we shouldnt criticize him, but even as a right winger, who of our starting 11 is better than him?Gerrard looks like he doesnt care(becouse of the injury i hope), we force Torres too much becouse we dont have anyone else to put at his place, so he plays bad, im not mentioning Lucas, havent seen much from Mascherano... Benny and Kuyt are the only people that at least do something at the moment.I seriosly dont know what better player do we have at the moment than those two.

by **Emerald Red** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:10 pm

Yeah, but It aint his fault that he is playing there.Our dear manager doesnt know that strikers play foward, not as wingers.His best position would be at the place of Gerrard, put Gerrard in the place of Lucas and put Benny at the place of Kuyt.Becouse he doesnt do as well as he can on the position he is now, we shouldnt criticize him, but even as a right winger, who of our starting 11 is better than him?Gerrard looks like he doesnt care(becouse of the injury i hope), we force Torres too much becouse we dont have anyone else to put at his place, so he plays bad, im not mentioning Lucas, havent seen much from Mascherano... Benny and Kuyt are the only people that at least do something at the moment.I seriosly dont know what better player do we have at the moment than those two.

I certainly wouldn't upset the applecart by moving Gerrard around if it's unnescessary. Gerrard behind Torres is arguably the best partnership in European football when they are on form, so if anyone is to come in on the right, it's to challange Kuyt place in the squad, and to give the squad more depth. To have McGeady to come on from the bench in place of Kuyt would be fantastic opition to have IMO and use Yossi on the left. Thing is about McGeady is that he can be used either left or right. I'm still not sold on the idea of him coming to us, but looking at our options, I'd sign him tomorrow.

by **damjan193** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:26 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Yeah, but It aint his fault that he is playing there.Our dear manager doesnt know that strikers play foward, not as wingers.His best position would be at the place of Gerrard, put Gerrard in the place of Lucas and put Benny at the place of Kuyt.Becouse he doesnt do as well as he can on the position he is now, we shouldnt criticize him, but even as a right winger, who of our starting 11 is better than him?Gerrard looks like he doesnt care(becouse of the injury i hope), we force Torres too much becouse we dont have anyone else to put at his place, so he plays bad, im not mentioning Lucas, havent seen much from Mascherano... Benny and Kuyt are the only people that at least do something at the moment.I seriosly dont know what better player do we have at the moment than those two.

I certainly wouldn't upset the applecart by moving Gerrard around if it's unnescessary. Gerrard behind Torres is arguably the best partnership in European football when they are on form, so if anyone is to come in on the right, it's to challange Kuyt place in the squad, and to give the squad more depth. To have McGeady to come on from the bench in place of Kuyt would be fantastic opition to have IMO and use Yossi on the left. Thing is about McGeady is that he can be used either left or right. I'm still not sold on the idea of him coming to us, but looking at our options, I'd sign him tomorrow.

Well you got the point there, but I'd rather have Lucas out, than Gerrard's and Torres' partnership.Their form is all out at the moment anyway, so that's why I dont agree with replacing Kuyt with someone else.McGeady would be good on the bench since we dont even have a real right winger, but as a good replacment for Kuyt, who is in a lot better form than the other midfielders.My point here is that im talking about this moment now, and you're talking about Gerrard's and Torres' top form, which we clearly dont have t the moment.Im talking about sorting our promblems with the formation, the players, the players' form and Kuyt is not the biggest problem at the moment.I think that the solution of our problems is the striking position, and thats where we should aim at the most.But then again, you do make good arguments, that position is also a problem, but for this season doesnt look like its the crucial one.

by **GalataSaraY1905** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:00 pm

anti-hero wrote:has anyone seen this?

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport....erpool)

Arda Turan allegedly wants to play for a team with red shirts.

A right winger, would go for around 10 to 12 million. Captain of Galatasary, Arsenal was supposedly inquiring a couple of months back, but then again he plays in the Turkish League.

That's right my friend.Arda wants to play for Liverpool..And we Galatasaray Fans want him to play for Liverpool.
We are saying thank you for Harry Kewell..You'll say us "Thank You" for Arda Turan..Our Captain Arda is better than Riera,Babel and Benayoun..

I'm a fan of Galatasaray and also fan of Liverpool.I hope arda will join you,Arsenal wants to him,but arda wants to Liverpool..

He is our legend,but he should play in Premier League because he is very good player..But,when he will be 30, give him back to us

because he is really fan of Galatasaray like Gerrard's liverpool fan.

by **Aussie Style** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:56 pm

GalataSaraY1905 wrote:We are saying thank you for Harry Kewell..

Haha..most people on here are saying thank you to Gala for taking Harry Kewell.

Arda Turan, I don't know alot about him, would he replace Kuyt? Does Kuyt have have a role if his not starting? Starting and running all day he can do, coming on for 20 minutes as a super sub..I'm not so sure

by **muzza798** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:14 pm

We need players but at the same time we dont. We obviously need a striker to be back up for torres but take a step back and remember last season. Our best Prem season ever and we have basically the same team. Oh yes Lucas is :censored:

and Insua is dodgey but when we went away to Utd last season we won confortably 1-4 with Lucas playing and an ageing Hyypia. The same season where we anally raped R. Madrid and were smashing 4/5 past everyone we faced.

Its just our confidance. Once we get 2 or 3 wins under our belt, get Aquilani up to match fitness and get Torres and Gerrard playing well we'll be fine. We could do with Jones to step in and maybe a winger but its so obviously our confidance and injuries that have brought us to our knees.

by **tubby** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:20 pm

GalataSaraY1905 wrote:
anti-hero wrote:has anyone seen this?

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport....erpool)

Arda Turan allegedly wants to play for a team with red shirts.

A right winger, would go for around 10 to 12 million. Captain of Galatasary, Arsenal was supposedly inquiring a couple of months back, but then again he plays in the Turkish League.

That's right my friend.Arda wants to play for Liverpool..And we Galatasaray Fans want him to play for Liverpool.
We are saying thank you for Harry Kewell..You'll say us "Thank You" for Arda Turan..Our Captain Arda is better than Riera,Babel and Benayoun..

I'm a fan of Galatasaray and also fan of Liverpool.I hope arda will join you,Arsenal wants to him,but arda wants to Liverpool..

He is our legend,but he should play in Premier League because he is very good player..But,when he will be 30, give him back to us because he is really fan of Galatasaray like Gerrard's liverpool fan.

Welcome to the forum mate.

Id like Arda Turan at Liverpool too.

by **muzza798** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:42 pm

Aussie Style wrote:
GalataSaraY1905 wrote:We are saying thank you for Harry Kewell..

Haha..most people on here are saying thank you to Gala for taking Harry Kewell.

Arda Turan, I don't know alot about him, would he replace Kuyt? Does Kuyt have have a role if his not starting? Starting and running all day he can do, coming on for 20 minutes as a super sub..I'm not so sure

Hows your master league going

by **Owzat** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:24 am

muzza798 wrote:We need players but at the same time we dont. We obviously need a striker to be back up for torres but take a step back and remember last season. Our best Prem season ever and we have basically the same team. Oh yes Lucas is and Insua is dodgey but when we went away to Utd last season we won confortably 1-4 with Lucas playing and an ageing Hyypia. The same season where we anally raped R. Madrid and were smashing 4/5 past everyone we faced.

Its just our confidance. Once we get 2 or 3 wins under our belt, get Aquilani up to match fitness and get Torres and Gerrard playing well we'll be fine. We could do with Jones to step in and maybe a winger but its so obviously our confidance and injuries that have brought us to our knees.

We need the players to find form and Rafa to become a better and less stubborn, inflexible manager.

A few reinforcements wouldn't go amiss, I see the Kuyt-bashers are back out in force and he's always going to be one the bashers want replaced. Replace the manager and you might find the team is more effective(ly used)

It can't be confidence and confidence alone, these players should go into a game against the bottom side expecting to win. I suspect the players are all playing the blame game as well, perhaps they all blame Kuyt like the bashers on here

by **lakes10** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:05 am

I ask you this, if you are the owners and going by the results you are thinking of sacking , would you now give him 20mil to spend, or would you hold off untill you put the new manager to come in and give him 40mil to spend?

by **bigmick** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:19 am

lakes10 wrote:I ask you this, if you are the owners and going by the results you are thinking of sacking , would you now give him 20mil to spend, or would you hold off untill you put the new manager to come in and give him 40mil to spend?

Neither, you use the 20 mill to pay him off and give the new guy 20 mill in the Summer.

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