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Postby redbeergoggles » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:10 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
redbeergoggles wrote:Id like to take this opportunity to promote the idea of festive lights to mask the D*cks   on peoples foreheads ,lets not forget while we drink and be merry on this the most bounteous of special days ,lets not forget them unfortunate few whose phallic appendages make it practically impossible for them to don a hat    :D
I apologise for this interruption into what is an essential thread and I pray people will give freely to this cause ,which is now reaching epidemic proportions

Please send all donations to www.let them wear beanies.co.uk

:laugh: you missed out the batman cape an all there , that comes with the beanie hat

:D Its getting ridiculous now Nan ,some of these people are our future ( I shudder to think  )
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Postby Scottbot » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:17 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Im not gonna try an cause conflict on here but ive said before it will be the fans that go the match that will decide if an when Rafa goes , not phoneins or SSN followers , or even people calling for his head on an internet forum, Pinky an Perky know Rafa has the support of the majority of the match goers , ok yes theres a few jumping ship, but as i said he is still backed by the majority, Now while he has this support can you see the yanks having the fans turned on them even more , because i cant ,

I'd go along with that, it seems the feeling in the stands is more one of disappointment as opposed to the anger that we're seeing on here, on 606 and other phone-ins.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:05 am

NANNY RED wrote:best post ive read in ages , posted by a lad on another forum

'sticking with the bird you've been for five years even though you're going through a bit of a rough patch ATM, but in the knowledge that there's probably no other bird out there that cares for you more, knowing you'll get through your rough patch soon enough.

:nod  :nod

See this is where i disagree Nan, (i know it wasnt your comment btw)
You may think there may be no other bird that cares for you as much, but there is.
Why wouldnt there be ?
YOU, ME - WE ( i mean LFC) are amazing, a brilliant club.
Yes in a difficult position, but so attractive due to our history and our fans.
Any bird would love us.

Dont underestimate us just to suit defending Rafa please people.
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Postby killerp » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:14 am

lakes10 wrote:Well the press room are now linking Liverpool with Guus Hiddink, they seem to think he is about to step down as the Russian manager, this will clear the way to become the Liverpool manager.

I dont know where their info is coming from but as its not being reported yet on the tv then i yake it they are still looking into it.

If there is one manager in the world right now that can pull Liverpool out of the quagmire, its Guus. But he is not keen on club football so this would be a short term contract if this deal would ever happen.
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Postby Rush Job » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:19 am

If we dont win agaist wigan bye bye rafa, a line has to be drawn somewhere.
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Postby tonyeh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:21 am

Big Niall wrote:Rembember Jose talking about the great history of LFC and that athmosphere for the CL semis. I think he could be tempted even without a massive pot of money.

Hiddink would also be great for a season or two like Joe Fagan.

Martin O'Neill is a brilliant manager

Anyone really - it is impossible to believe in the future when the current boss bought all these players, picks them, motivates them, decides tactics and we're level with Birmingham.

Have to admit Niall, I wouldn't mind a punt at O'Niell.

But Klinsman, no. He was a great player in his day. But as a manager of a premiership side. I don't think so.

I'll puke if Jose comes to Liverpool though. I hated him when he was with Chelsea and I would hate him at Liverpool too. I'd end up back in the same fight as I am now with people.

"Support the manager"
"No, he's a wanker"
"Leave the manager alone! Wahhhhhh!"

Fuck all that...

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Postby shawnk » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:57 am

Scottbot wrote:Agree whole-heartedly with this. The idea that there are a bunch of managers out there who wouldn't want the Liverpool job (should it become available) keeps kicking kicked about here but it's a ridiculous notion. It's one of the biggest jobs in world football and I don't imagine there are many managers out there that would turn it down regardless of any perceptions they have about the current state of the club.

Agree. However, I'm sure it comes across their mind that they'll have to fulfill one of the most demanding fans (and the best) in the EPL. That's one pressure to be considered before accepting the job
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Postby Octsky » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:13 am

If we didnt win at Wigan, Rafa has to go.
Short term manager - King kenny
Long term - Hiddink, MON.

Before Rafa, we were strongly linked with Martin o'neil,
LFC was invincinble in the past due to his strong british roots-Rush, KK, King Kenny, Hansen etc etc.

Prehaps it is time we go back to that by appointing a manager who knows the continent well.
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Postby babu » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:10 am

don't know how any of you can condone sacking the manager in the middle of the season.

That is simply not on.
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Postby Owzat » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:38 am

shawnk wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Agree whole-heartedly with this. The idea that there are a bunch of managers out there who wouldn't want the Liverpool job (should it become available) keeps kicking kicked about here but it's a ridiculous notion. It's one of the biggest jobs in world football and I don't imagine there are many managers out there that would turn it down regardless of any perceptions they have about the current state of the club.


Agree. However, I'm sure it comes across their mind that they'll have to fulfill one of the most demanding fans (and the best) in the EPL. That's one pressure to be considered before accepting the job

I find the daftest notion of the lot is that we shouldn't get rid of managers mid season because of a lack of available managers. Should we be picking from sacked/unemployed managers?!?!? Of course not, we should be picking the best man for the job and bidding to get him whether employed or not. Real Madrid wouldn't think twice about going for Benitez, you can bet the mancs won't think twice about whether their target to replace fergie is employed or not.

As for babu's comment, whether you "don't know" or not is irrelevant, some of us believe the manager is dragging the club down and it is time for change whether you "know" or "condone" what is going on or not. If you're happy with losing 10 games by xmas and being ordinary with an ordinary manager then take a trip across Stanley Park and watch that lot
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Postby Judge » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:06 am

s@int wrote:
Judge wrote:BRING BACK DALGLISH INTO THE MANAGERS ROLE NOW  :buttrock

Spot on again Judge   :nod

thats two posts of mine youve liked :D
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Postby bigmick » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:35 am

Judge wrote:
s@int wrote:
Judge wrote:BRING BACK DALGLISH INTO THE MANAGERS ROLE NOW  :buttrock

Spot on again Judge   :nod

thats two posts of mine youve liked :D

Out of twenty odd thousand though that's not that many Judgie  :D
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Postby andy_g » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:44 am

if this was just about a run of bad results, and a league position 5 or 6 places below where we should be this season, and a few less than glorious performances then i wouldn't be too worried about the manager. with the first team getting together again on the pitch again and the knowledge that these players can perform together (we've seen all the evidence) i'd be fairly confident about us going on a run and easily making the top 4.

however, the thing that is really worrying, the thing we are seeing little signs of and reading little snippets about, is the possibility of benitez having lost the dressing room. of course, we don't know if he has or not - but little signs like players negative body language on the pitch, the team warming down in separate little groups, half hearted performances in must win games etc etc only serve to fuel the flames of the rumour.

if he has lost the dressing room, or at the very least caused the players to lose belief in him, to lose the will to play for him, then we really are in trouble. i'm not sure there's much of a way back from that. the odd phil brown type team talk on the pitch, or a bonding trip to marbella, or a fun night at the lfc xmas karaoke isn't going to fix it. probably the only sensible course of action for all concerned is a change of manager, and sooner rather than later. there's no guarantee that such a change would bring our season round and its a huge risk to take, but going through the rest of the season with a bunch of disillusioned players is an even bigger one.
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Postby bigmick » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:52 am

andy_g wrote:if this was just about a run of bad results, and a league position 5 or 6 places below where we should be this season, and a few less than glorious performances then i wouldn't be too worried about the manager. with the first team getting together again on the pitch again and the knowledge that these players can perform together (we've seen all the evidence) i'd be fairly confident about us going on a run and easily making the top 4.

however, the thing that is really worrying, the thing we are seeing little signs of and reading little snippets about, is the possibility of benitez having lost the dressing room. of course, we don't know if he has or not - but little signs like players negative body language on the pitch, the team warming down in separate little groups, half hearted performances in must win games etc etc only serve to fuel the flames of the rumour.

if he has lost the dressing room, or at the very least caused the players to lose belief in him, to lose the will to play for him, then we really are in trouble. i'm not sure there's much of a way back from that. the odd phil brown type team talk on the pitch, or a bonding trip to marbella, or a fun night at the lfc xmas karaoke isn't going to fix it. probably the only sensible course of action for all concerned is a change of manager, and sooner rather than later. there's no guarantee that such a change would bring our season round and its a huge risk to take, but going through the rest of the season with a bunch of disillusioned players is an even bigger one.

Spot on, word for word. My one rider would be I'd want absolute confirmation that he has infact lost the dressing room before I started thinking about getting rid mid season. A meeting between Carragher, Gerrard, the Spanish Lads and Purslow ought to get to the bottom of it pretty quickly. I must confess it appears to me that the players have "gone" as far as Rafa is concerned, but we (or they, the powers that be that is) need to know for sure before taking action.
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Postby Judge » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:22 am

bigmick wrote:
Judge wrote:
s@int wrote:
Judge wrote:BRING BACK DALGLISH INTO THE MANAGERS ROLE NOW  :buttrock

Spot on again Judge   :nod

thats two posts of mine youve liked :D

Out of twenty odd thousand though that's not that many Judgie  :D

what i failed to point out mick, is that the other 20 odd thousand he thought were awesome  :rasp
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