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Postby Big Niall » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:34 pm

GYBS wrote:Yes but shanks didnt do it in a disrespectful way - maureen does.

There's only two teams in the city of Liverpool - Liverpool and Liverpool reserves!!!!!


funny as f*ck, today the media would hype it up as disrespectful. I agree Mourinho is just as funny. The things he said about LFC should be taken with good humour, some people are too sensitive.

I'd love to see him back in England, although as he'd probably be with a rival club, maybe not.
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Postby Toffeehater » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:45 pm

Like it or not there's no denying he is a great manager , he's arrogant as feck but any club that is managed by him is going to be tough to beat . His record at home is unbelievable , ask any chelsea fan whether they want him back and they will take him back in a heartbeat
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Postby tubby » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:25 pm

Lets we not forget he is usually also blessed with having vast financial resources at his disposal. In the case of Inter they already had  squad full of world class and international level players in place. In actual fact I think by this time last year Inter had picked up more points so im not sure if he is the sucess in Italy everyone makes him out to be.
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:19 pm

bavlondon wrote:Lets we not forget he is usually also blessed with having vast financial resources at his disposal. In the case of Inter they already had  squad full of world class and international level players in place. In actual fact I think by this time last year Inter had picked up more points so im not sure if he is the sucess in Italy everyone makes him out to be.

Well according to him he doesnt even pick the team right?
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Postby Big Niall » Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:13 pm

Inter Milan hasn't proved anything but winning the champions league with porto did.

what other club from a minor league has won it in recent  years?
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Postby tubby » Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:21 pm

Big Niall wrote:Inter Milan hasn't proved anything but winning the champions league with porto did.

what other club from a minor league has won it in recent  years?

Marsille in 1993, Red Star in 1991 I suppose but yeah he does deserve some credit for winning it with Porto.
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Postby Dundalk » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:53 pm

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Postby Sabre » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:12 pm

I couldn't say no to Manchester United



Well, getting headlines in Italy like "niente espeziale" (Nothing especial), it seems to me that Mou isn't going to be in the position of saying no to many big clubs, let alone Manchester.
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Postby yolz » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:30 am

The way managers are measured these days are a little different from the past
The way the game is played, the financial resources, and also the media
All being said, I think a ggod manager is one who can get the best out of his team while handling the nedia circus at the same time
In this respect, I think Maureen is up there with the best
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Postby Reg » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:15 pm

and the only step you missed is to value the guy.
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Postby zarababe » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:10 pm

Sabre wrote:I couldn't say no to Manchester United



Well, getting headlines in Italy like "niente espeziale" (Nothing especial), it seems to me that Mou isn't going to be in the position of saying no to many big clubs, let alone Manchester.

he's a :censored: - getting bored in Italy - so making noises - Inter should gag him  :no
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Postby Sabre » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:03 pm

Mourinho was sent to the Italy tv, and he had to do the Composture test. Basically he had to have composture on front of some reactions

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No problem so far.

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That smile is a nervous one

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I'd better close my eyes. No reaction from the tiny third leg.

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He preffers not to look

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Yeh, he recovers composture with the Spanish dancer, but had he had been shown a Rafa picture, then I'd like to see what would happen
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Postby Big Niall » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:30 pm

you have to love italian  culture :D

can you imagine sven? he'd whip out the rubbers there and then.
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Postby Bad Bob » Sun May 24, 2009 12:05 am

MAKALELE HAS POP AT JOSE

Claude Makelele has lifted the lid on Jose Mourinho's tenure at Chelsea, and has not been complimentary.

The French midfielder, who is now on the books of Paris St Germain, spent five years at Stamford Bridge between 2003 and 2008.

He was taken to England by Claudio Ranieri, but played under the Italian for just one season before he was unceremoniously sacked.

Mourinho, fresh from helping Porto win the UEFA Champions League, was appointed in his place and quickly made his mark upon his arrival with the Blues.

He enjoyed considerable success throughout his first two seasons at the club, but saw his relationship with his players and the Chelsea hierarchy begin to unravel when his philosophies were questioned.

"For two years at Chelsea we lived as a group of friends, dining together, getting drunk together, going to training together and winning matches together," Makelele writes in his autobiography Tout Simplement.

"Between 2004 and 2006 the solidarity in the Chelsea camp was amazing. Mourinho then broke all that when he banned key elements and treated certain players as 'stars'.

"Very early on in the 2006/07 season, Mourinho took a step back from his players. In that one day, the brotherhood spirit that had gathered us around him was harmed.

"Then he had a bust-up with (Roman) Abramovich. The chairman asked the players to express themselves more freely on the pitch, but Mourinho stubbornly refused to change his methods.

"A relationship at the top of the club was broken and the players began to feel it.

"During that third complete season under his control, I was stunned to see how Mourinho forget the value of his players and claimed all the credit for the results.

"To him, individuals didn't make the team work well, his methods did. At the end we felt that he was in danger as soon as a player was under the spotlight more than him."


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Well, then, some very interesting comments from a player that excelled under Mourinho.  Perhaps he isn't quite the man-management guru he's made out to be after all? ???
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun May 24, 2009 3:27 am

well they won feck all before he came and they have won feck all since he left, but hey, if partying is more important to the players than doing what they are paid to do who am I to argue.
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