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Postby Ciggy » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:34 am

made in UK wrote:Surely its not up to LCC? They wouldn't have the final say would they, the clubs would. I know Everton are desperate, but we're not that desperate surely?

The Yanks will just say we cant afford the stadium in the current climate, LCC will give money for a new joint stadium.
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Postby access » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:46 am

In the Independent:
Everton's plans to relocate from Goodison Park to a new 50,000-capacity stadium in Kirkby, which the club considered crucial to its attempt to keep pace with the Premier League elite, were dashed last night as the Government refused to give them the go-ahead.

The club had been hopeful that the proposals would be approved, creating a huge increase in potential matchday revenues and making Everton far more attractive to the prospective wealthy investors which chairman Bill Kenwright so desperately wants to find to maintain them as a force. But following a public inquiry the Government ordered into the project – a venture led by Tesco who would have built a 15,000-square metre store at the heart of the site – the Communities Secretary John Denham will announce today that it is to be rejected. The stadium, he will argue, will breach local shopping policy designed to discourage major supermarket chains sucking business away from town and city centres.

The decision leaves Kenwright's future plans for the club uncertain and it may become clearer this afternoon whether Everton, unwilling to comment last night before the Government's decision is published in full, have an alternative strategy. The news seeped out ahead of the defeat at Hull which leaves David Moyes' side four points off the relegation zone. "I have nothing to say," was Moyes' response on the stadium news last night.
The decision took some local MPs by surprise last night, as they had assumed that potential new investment amid tough financial times on Merseyside would weigh against retail planning policy. The Knowsley North and Sefton East MP George Howarth said: "I deeply regret this decision in a time of significant economic challenge to the whole of Merseyside during a recession."

The timing is grim for Everton, whose troubled start to the season suggests that the effects of possessing a sparse squad and lacking spending power is finally beginning to hit home.

The new stadium forms the core of Everton's "facility model" business plan. With Arsenal and Manchester United raking in triple the £900,000 matchday takings that Everton get from each game, the earnings gulf between the big clubs is growing by the week. Goodison, an ancient stadium with a mere 40,000 capacity, offers no prospects for expansion
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The Everton chief executive, Robert Elstone told The Independent last year that delays in the approval of the stadium were hampering the search for the buyer Kenwright seeks. "The green light will enable this club to compete at the top end of the Premier League far more than it would if we stay at Goodison," he said. "Any investor will look at that equation very closely." Tesco anticipated such profit that they were willing to subsidise the cost of building the stadium, by £52m, leaving Everton to find only £78m, to build the stadium.

The merchant banker Keith Harris, who was enlisted by Kenwright last year to help find a buyer, has said he has struggled because investors expect the value of a club to increase by 5 to 10 per cent every year, without them having to spend cash investing in facilities.

Knowsley council granted planning permission last year, but two months later the Government called in the scheme for a public inquiry after Sefton, West Lancashire, St Helens and Liverpool city council said it would suck trade away.

Denham's decision comes as Liverpool – who visit Goodison on Sunday – continue their pursuit of new investors to raise £100m needed to get their own Stanley Park stadium plans off the ground. It is equally critical to Liverpool's own model and though the rejection of Everton's stadium will raise the issue of a groundshare again, there has been no mood in support of  such a proposal at Anfield.
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Postby made in UK » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:48 am

Ciggy wrote:
made in UK wrote:Surely its not up to LCC? They wouldn't have the final say would they, the clubs would. I know Everton are desperate, but we're not that desperate surely?

The Yanks will just say we cant afford the stadium in the current climate, LCC will give money for a new joint stadium.
its being disgussed here http://www.mediauk.com/content/player.muk?id=296

Oh f.uck.

Has that Hick's sold Rangers yet, I read an old article that he could recieve up to 550 million US dollars for Rangers. He is selling them because he couldn't afford to pay the players wages. He should lump a big portion of that into our club, even though he has ruled out investing into Liverpool or Dallas with the money from Rangers.

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Postby made in UK » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:49 am

Hey access, I've read a few of you're posts, they are good welcome to the forum mate. :)
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:54 am

made in UK wrote:Oh f.uck.

Has that Hick's sold Rangers yet, I read an old article that he could recieve up to 550 million US dollars for Rangers. He is selling them because he couldn't afford to pay the players wages. He should lump a big portion of that into our club, even though he has ruled out investing into Liverpool or Dallas with the money from Rangers.

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Hicks is not selling the Rangers now, he is bringing investors in so he can keep hold of it, because no one wants to buy it at the price he is asking, (sounds familiar)  :glare:

Roger Philipps is on soon about the stadium
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Postby access » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:57 am

made in UK wrote:Hey access, I've read a few of you're posts, they are good welcome to the forum mate. :)

Cheers matey,

Its actually surprising how better you feel when you make your views heard .... even if some are s**t
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Postby made in UK » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:01 am

access wrote:
made in UK wrote:Hey access, I've read a few of you're posts, they are good welcome to the forum mate. :)

Cheers matey,

Its actually surprising how better you feel when you make your views heard .... even if some are s**t

I concur.
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Postby made in UK » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:06 am

I'm tuned in to BBC Merseyside!

Paul Young woohooooo!!!!
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:48 am

There is no-one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club.

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Postby tubby » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:53 am

made in UK wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
made in UK wrote:Surely its not up to LCC? They wouldn't have the final say would they, the clubs would. I know Everton are desperate, but we're not that desperate surely?

The Yanks will just say we cant afford the stadium in the current climate, LCC will give money for a new joint stadium.
its being disgussed here http://www.mediauk.com/content/player.muk?id=296

Oh f.uck.

Has that Hick's sold Rangers yet, I read an old article that he could recieve up to 550 million US dollars for Rangers. He is selling them because he couldn't afford to pay the players wages. He should lump a big portion of that into our club, even though he has ruled out investing into Liverpool or Dallas with the money from Rangers.

:no

Actually I think it has already been established that none of the rangers money would go into Liverpool. That would probably be used to free up his other major debt in the USA.
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Postby tubby » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:54 am

People need to realise that ground shares do not work. Aside from the intense rivaliry just imagine how nakard the pitch would be. The San Siro is a perfect example.
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:15 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/26/everton-liverpool


Everton to consider ground-share with Liverpool after Kirkby snub

• Everton will consider move if it makes financial sense
• 'We're not scared of those decisions,' says chief executive

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Everton had hoped to move from their historic home at Goodison Park to Kirkby. Photograph: Christopher Thomond/Guardian

Everton's chief executive Robert Elstone has admitted the club would consider a ground-sharing arrangement with Liverpool after their plans for a move to Kirkby were rejected by the government.

Both clubs have previously been reluctant to go down the route of sharing a stadium, however Elstone has revealed Everton are not against the idea, if it makes financial sense.

"It's certainly one of the options that we will need to cover," he said. "A shared stadium is perhaps an option if it's affordable.

"We have to look at where we can raise money, because potentially Liverpool will have to obviously contribute to that, and Liverpool City Council perhaps might need to find some money.

"Our history is one of creativity and innovation and if we are the first major English club to look at sharing then we're not scared of making those decisions."

Everton had hoped to build a 50,000-seat stadium to be the centrepiece of a retail development park in Kirkby. The scheme was to be driven by the supermarket Tesco. However the government rejected the controversial plan.
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Postby stmichael » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:32 pm

Unfortunately I think it's inevitable, especially as we're under pressure from the banks :angry:
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Postby NANNY RED » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:46 pm

Ciggy wrote:Please cast your NO vote !!!!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11979_5721428,00.html

Voted , how many times can yeh vote no , an who the fecking hell are voting yes, ill bet you its Mancs messing around, because mostof the bitters ive spoke to dont want to share with us an all,

Therll be no money coming from my house if it gets the go ahead , i will not set foot inside an my lad whos a bitter has said the same

Them fecking yanks i really wish someone would just top the bas.tards.
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Postby Number 9 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:58 pm

Fuc'k sake...there is every possibility that the groundshare may go ahead now!
The 2 yanks cant afford a stadium alone but will be seeing pound signs at the chance of a bigger ground now that they dont have to pay all the money themselves.
Financially this is a great deal for them as all they care about is money.

TBH results and recent form are are of little concern to me compared to this....Those two kunts are gonna take the club to the gutter! :angry:
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