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by **heimdall** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:50 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
s@int wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Souness resigned , learn your history .

Houllier left by mutual consent to enable Liverpool kept up tradition of not sacking managers .

And Evans?

Resigned .

The last and only manager and we sacked was way back after the war - Don Welsh

Is correct , but Why would Heimdell know about that considering he thinks Rafa has been our manager for the past 40 years

Houllier left with a full pay off package, no reason why Rafa couldn't do the same. Walk/sacked/ mutual consent ..... if they get their payoff they are only words.

Maybe words mate but it sort of keeps us unique and different and enables managers of our club to leave with head held high as they should .

erm did Souness really leave with his head held high??

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:51 pm

heimdall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
s@int wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Souness resigned , learn your history .

Houllier left by mutual consent to enable Liverpool kept up tradition of not sacking managers .

And Evans?

Resigned .

The last and only manager and we sacked was way back after the war - Don Welsh

Is correct , but Why would Heimdell know about that considering he thinks Rafa has been our manager for the past 40 years

Houllier left with a full pay off package, no reason why Rafa couldn't do the same. Walk/sacked/ mutual consent ..... if they get their payoff they are only words.

Maybe words mate but it sort of keeps us unique and different and enables managers of our club to leave with head held high as they should .

erm did Souness really leave with his head held high??

He left with full pockets though Heimdall

by **Beachdrifter** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:53 pm

This is a tricky one, I would love to see King Kenny back in the hot seat but as someone has already said he left Liverpool Management for more reasons than just football. With Liverpool in the position we are in would it be fair on Kenny to coem in and expect him to turn the club around. It woud be a great marketing ploy and would lift the fans simialar to when we resigned Robbie. It seemed the atmosphere at the club changed overnight. But the I personally have to question some of the players Rafa has brought into the club. We have players who are meant to be starts for the future have been at the club 2or 3 seasons and, to me, haven't improved and we are finfing it hard to move on. Thats not counting the players who have coem to the club and left quicky. I wouldn't want to see any Liverpool manager sacked and I am not going to start now, but perhaps we should look at the scouting staff and some of the players they are recommending. Also I think the backroom staff should have more of a british influence.
I think we have to look at the club as a whole and perhaps set a precedent. I think we have players in the youth system who are as good as any in Europe but they know the history and tradition of the club. To quote "Give me men whose hearts have bled, make them proud to wear the red", let's try to fetch these lads through, do you think they would play any worst or as good as some of the current first team players? I know maybe a bit idealistic but I believe I think Liverpool will turn it around but things need to change but not with the manager.....yet. All he needs to do is show some passion, when we scored the second goal against manure the was no joy or happiness. Football is about joy and passions and winning for Liverpool Football Club, he has to show us that, he has to to make us great again!!

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:54 pm

s@int wrote:So we sack him and then say it was by mutual consent (same as Newcastle usually do ..... No problem He gets his payoff, we get to keep our "unique status" and everyone is happy (apart from you and Nanny )

I can see him getting sacked anyway at some point in the future mate not this season - not saying it should happen or want it too happen and yes when it happens i will be gutted as the guy has brought me cheer in my heart with regards to my club and no matter what anyone says i still believe he genuinely understands the club and the fans .

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:54 pm

heimdall wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Souness resigned , learn your history .

Houllier left by mutual consent to enable Liverpool kept up tradition of not sacking managers .

And Evans?

Resigned .

The last and only manager and we sacked was way back after the war - Don Welsh

Is correct , but Why would Heimdell know about that considering he thinks Rafa has been our manager for the past 40 years

wow you are just so good at taking things out of context nanny, kind of like Supersub is so clever at using his mod powers to edit peoples posts, tee hee hee aren't I a big shot.

In all honesty the first manager who I paid any attention to was Souness, not because he was particularly good but because that was when I started supporting Liverpool, I'm some glory hunter eh ??

in the words of Fernando ,Deffo :laugh:

So who did you support for the first 25 years then :;):

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:55 pm

heimdall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
s@int wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Souness resigned , learn your history .

Houllier left by mutual consent to enable Liverpool kept up tradition of not sacking managers .

And Evans?

Resigned .

The last and only manager and we sacked was way back after the war - Don Welsh

Is correct , but Why would Heimdell know about that considering he thinks Rafa has been our manager for the past 40 years

Houllier left with a full pay off package, no reason why Rafa couldn't do the same. Walk/sacked/ mutual consent ..... if they get their payoff they are only words.

Maybe words mate but it sort of keeps us unique and different and enables managers of our club to leave with head held high as they should .

erm did Souness really leave with his head held high??

By resigning he gained some lost respect from some fans for releasing he was the wrong person for the job and the guy will still be held in massive high regard from a lot of the fans due to his playing career .

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:57 pm

Erm dont think that was the case Benny mate , certainly not in my eyes

by **JC_81** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:59 pm

I think another genuine question to ask is how far removed are the owners from what is actually going on here? To be quite honest they seem to take very little interest in what goes on on the pitch, and if they do they certainly don't talk publicly about it.

My guess is that until it directly affects them, ie financially - which means not qualifying for the CL - they'll do nothing. I don't think they really care if we win the Premiership or not, as long as we qualify for the CL and bring in the cash that way they're happy. Let's face it, financially there's probably not much between finishing 1st and 4th in the league. When you consider what we might have had to spend on players to give us a better chance of winning the league, my guess is they just don't think it's worth it financially.

Therefore should we lose the next two games, no, I don't think they'll sack him. The media pressure won't have as big an impact on them either as it may on other chairmen/owners, because they're never in the country.

by **heimdall** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:59 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Erm dont think that was the case Benny mate , certainly not in my eyes

not in mine either, as I recall he was hated by everyone when he resigned, as a manager that is.

To answer your question Ninny I didn't support anyone before Liverpool not in football anyway.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:59 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Erm dont think that was the case Benny mate , certainly not in my eyes

Not all fans Nanny - course not but i know a lot of guys who gave him a bit more respect at the time . I understood what souness tried back then but he bought the wrong players .

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:01 pm

heimdall wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Erm dont think that was the case Benny mate , certainly not in my eyes

not in mine either, as I recall he was hated by everyone when he resigned, as a manager that is.

To answer your question Ninny I didn't support anyone before Liverpool not in football anyway.

How can you support a club in anything other than a footballing way

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:01 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
heimdall wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Souness resigned , learn your history .

Houllier left by mutual consent to enable Liverpool kept up tradition of not sacking managers .

And Evans?

Resigned .

The last and only manager and we sacked was way back after the war - Don Welsh

Is correct , but Why would Heimdell know about that considering he thinks Rafa has been our manager for the past 40 years

wow you are just so good at taking things out of context nanny, kind of like Supersub is so clever at using his mod powers to edit peoples posts, tee hee hee aren't I a big shot.

In all honesty the first manager who I paid any attention to was Souness, not because he was particularly good but because that was when I started supporting Liverpool, I'm some glory hunter eh ??

in the words of Fernando ,Deffo

So who did you support for the first 25 years then, I supported tottenham but got sick of going braless (no support and no cups)

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:03 pm

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:04 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Erm dont think that was the case Benny mate , certainly not in my eyes

Not all fans Nanny - course not but i know a lot of guys who gave him a bit more respect at the time . I understood what souness tried back then but he bought the wrong players .

Not just about players mate , He nearly destroyed us , an then ran away with his mouth to that piece of filth, :no

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:07 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Erm dont think that was the case Benny mate , certainly not in my eyes

Not all fans Nanny - course not but i know a lot of guys who gave him a bit more respect at the time . I understood what souness tried back then but he bought the wrong players .

Not just about players mate , He nearly destroyed us , an then ran away with his mouth to that piece of filth,

Oh agree after he left he lost it all again

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