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LFC2007 wrote:Kuyt's best football came when the team was performing at its peak level. That performance was mainly being measured in terms of goals (and crucial ones at that), assists, and sheer diligence, because we know he's fairly limited in his general play; his passing and first touch in particular, but also his movement and vision. Although the latter fall victim to the former, and thus when we're making a mental note of his performance, a badly executed pass will take precedence over the creative intent in it.

Since the team's performance fell of a cliff, it's no surprise to see Kuyt - as someone who lacks individual ability and whose contribution is more dependent on the team's general play being better (in order to enable him to move into those dangerous positions in the attacking third that he frequently found himself in last term) being particularly affected. In an attacking capacity, he's a confidence player more than most, so the volatility in the team's performance at both ends of the pitch will weigh heavily on his mind and morale. Once we've established the basics of a decent team i.e. clean sheets and coherent attacking play, his contributions will begin to show again because he'll not only be making more frequent forays into the box, he'll be sticking them away and putting them on a plate for others.

s@int wrote:I think Kuyt is at his best in games when we play with a high tempo and press the opposition, while games when teams sit back and allow us to come at them just emphasise his limitations. Play him in big games against the mancs or against teams that actually fight for the midfield rather than bypassing it with long balls, and his work rate and ability to create space make him worth his place. Can we do better ... yes, but that doesn't mean he is cr@p, just that most of the time we need players to break defences down rather than more "hard workers".

maypaxvobiscum wrote:

Penguins wrote:I have been saying that for years now. Even though I am a supporter of Rafa and his abilities if there is something that will make me finally loose faith it will be his consistant favourtism of Kuyt.

It was a long time ago such an ordinary player skillwise playing regularly for this club. I mean I have a big Liverpool heart and I'd play for free and bleed for the club, but that still shouldn't make me a an important player or even get a chance at such a big club. He is also soon 30 and I'd say it is time to cash in while we still can.

never knew he was that old already. but yeah if he is nearing 30, cash in. the most limited player ive ever seen in my life.

Second most productive player in the prem last season .

Yes he is limited . 

maypaxvobiscum wrote:go scroll up and take a look at The Rock's post above GYBS. now maybe you can come up with facts about how he is the 2nd most productive player from the right in the prem?

Benny The Noon wrote:Yet out produces most other right sided players in the prem - how the hell does someone who is average or limited keep doing that

Fowler_E7 wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Yet out produces most other right sided players in the prem - how the hell does someone who is average or limited keep doing that

so you think that kuyt is the best right winger in the prem?

Benny The Noon wrote:

Fowler_E7 wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Yet out produces most other right sided players in the prem - how the hell does someone who is average or limited keep doing that

so you think that kuyt is the best right winger in the prem?

No i never said that did i .

Yes their is more skillful more pacey wingers in the prem but for me the main thing is end product .

Plenty of times players like lennon and even pennant etc look lovely dancing round defenders then when it comes to a end product it is non exsitant hence little assists small amount of goals .

So while Kuyt maybe not the quickest,or the most skillful but for some reason with him being so limited and awful he seems to produce a lot more than the others in terms of end product which is the most important aspect .