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Top · by **7_Kewell** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:48 pm

Dazzer wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Dazzer wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Dazzer wrote:
Reg wrote:Thanks Daz but I base my views on something a bit more solid that Hollywood films mate.

One agian you read half my post Its ok tho its a marker to explain to me how thick you are.You clearly going through life only taking on info you agree with in end you just turn in a John McCain type Idealist.Its almost like your Teachers and Parents taught you every thing in the wrong way as a joke.

The film is about the effects of capitalism a true reflection of what is happening in the real world not down your street.But if you read the bottom of my post you would see why your idea's are wrong and I did explain it in simple terms for you.

boy, you're one tedious Biff...

You seem to follow me round like a bad smell.New post button stalkers best friend it seems.

I STARTED THIS THREAD

But you've filled it with your usual attention seeking sh!te

Attention seeking sh.it ? I am making points abotu something someone else brought up don't be so narrow minded.Only thing you have shown me is you with you mates is how good you are at singling out 1 person with a view other then your own or collective and bully them/discredit them.Any normal person reading this out side of these forums would think what a bunch of nasty little you are.As my wife has said 5-6 times looking over my shoulder.She asks me to stop posting on here as I am wasting my time I tell her thier are a good amount of posters who are not nasty little .But more the days go on less I see of that.Over all I am not getting a good vibe that any of you are nice people to be so systematic with you personal digs.I am glad not all liverpools fans are like you or it would make it very hard to keep loving a football club that has so many nasty people belonging to it.If you don't like me don't comment on my posts and if you don't agree with what I say just tell me why but really putting your a fecking idiot just because you view point is not same or saying I am attention seeking is just and you deep down know it is.Just a bunch of bloody sheep all jumping on bandwagon to have a go at someone prob because you lifes suck well sorry I guess thats my fault as well.

i stopped reading this 3 lines down :laugh:

Top · by **JoeTerp** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:47 pm

Dazzer wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:
Dazzer wrote:Also to make profit is to exploit in its most simple terms. IE the trade is not fair one you gain more for what you have given.So yes my statement is true in capitalism thier is always someone who comes of worse think about it will you.

This is why there is such a thing called debt because at the end of the chain when all the top dogs have made profit thier is someone who can't offord to buy the end result with real money.Really I thought you would have understood this but no you just keep the insults comming.

what are you talking about?

Trade is fair if both sides accept it on a voluntary basis.

In a trade, both sides come off better. Why would two people, A and B ever trade anything with each other? Because A has something that B wants, and B has something that A wants, AND A values what B has more that B values what he has, AND B values what A has more than what A values what he has

Well in ideal world thats right but I think you find when we talk 3rd world or sometimes well most of time in westen world we talking 1 person needs something other person rips then off.IE price of gas , if you close 2 plants farming gas drives price up supply and demand.There is plenty of resources in the world for every one but due to the westen world controling most of the money we have more of it and in the end the 3rd world don't get even the basics it needs.While we worry about our 5 fruit and veg a poor child in africa worries if he/she get a bowl of rice.This is where capitalism fails the world.Infact most of these 3rd world countrys can make enough food for them selfs but either have it stolen off them by us or have it bought of them so there elite ones in power can buy things like T.Vs cars or even drugs.

so many logical fallacies and incoherent sentences I don't know where to start.

how do you jump from taking the premise that people in the western world have food, and there are starving people in Africa, to saying that "this is where capitalism fails" It is mostly GOVERNMENT that is the reason why so many of those people are starving. Lots of those African countries have very oppressive governments that take all of the countries resources BY FORCE. Nothing to do with capitalism.

Top · by **woof woof !** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:12 pm

Dazzer wrote:There is plWell in ideal world thats right but I think you find when we talk 3rd world or sometimes well most of time in westen world we talking 1 person needs something other person rips then off.IE price of gas , if you close 2 plants farming gas drives price up supply and demand.enty of resources in the world for every one but due to the westen world controling most of the money we have more of it and in the end the 3rd world don't get even the basics it needs.While we worry about our 5 fruit and veg a poor child in africa worries if he/she get a bowl of rice.This is where capitalism fails the world.Infact most of these 3rd world countrys can make enough food for them selfs but either have it stolen off them by us or have it bought of them so there elite ones in power can buy things like T.Vs cars or even drugs.

Well in ideal world thats right but I think you find when we talk 3rd world or sometimes well most of time in westen world we talking 1 person needs something other person rips then off.IE price of gas , if you close 2 plants farming gas drives price up supply and demand.

I have no idea what Dazzer is saying here. Can somebody (apart from Dazzer) translate it into english ?.

Infact most of these 3rd world countrys can make enough food for them selfs but either have it stolen off them by us or have it bought of them so there elite ones in power can buy things like T.Vs cars or even drugs.

Dazzer, have you EVER spent any time in a "third world" country (South Wales doesn't count btw).

You assert that
"3rd world countrys can make enough food for them selfs" (sic)

Well, if we assume that each of the supposed starving masses have their own plot of land on which to grow their crops and raise their livestock and of course have the ability and money to fund their enterprise you might have a point.

Unfortunately for your latest round round of tin banging thesis the truth is far removed from that.
The vast majority of "third world" people do not own some idillyic plantation on which the can raise their crops and livestock, and guess what , they NEVER did.

As far as the west "stealing" the food out of their mouths is concerned, lets look at a few random third world countries

Chad - biggest export - Cotton
Mozambique - biggest export - Prawns
Nigeria- biggest export - Oil and Rubber
Zambia - biggest export - Copper

Some f'ucking diet that would be, prawns wrapped in cotton fried in petroleum and served up in a copper bowl.

If the west didn't trade, or as you would have it "steal" from these countries perhaps the third world would actually be in a worse state than it is now ?

Suggest in future that when you don't have a clue about what your talking about you just STFU, you're boring half the forum to death.

ps, just been advised that it's only because the other half have you on "block this members posts"

Top · by **Effes** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:09 pm

Attention seeking sh.it ? I am making points abotu something someone else brought up don't be so narrow minded.Only thing you have shown me is you with you mates is how good you are at singling out 1 person with a view other then your own or collective and bully them/discredit them.Any normal person reading this out side of these forums would think what a bunch of nasty little you are.As my wife has said 5-6 times looking over my shoulder.She asks me to stop posting on here as I am wasting my time I tell her thier are a good amount of posters who are not nasty little .But more the days go on less I see of that.Over all I am not getting a good vibe that any of you are nice people to be so systematic with you personal digs.I am glad not all liverpools fans are like you or it would make it very hard to keep loving a football club that has so many nasty people belonging to it.If you don't like me don't comment on my posts and if you don't agree with what I say just tell me why but really putting your a fecking idiot just because you view point is not same or saying I am attention seeking is just and you deep down know it is.Just a bunch of bloody sheep all jumping on bandwagon to have a go at someone prob because you lifes suck well sorry I guess thats my fault as well.

Dont worry bout it Dazzer mate i fink your alrite reelly just dont worry about people having a go at you at the end of the day we all come on here just to air our views it aint up to ovver people to say we talk :censored:

or wotever. I was talking to my mate the other day and he said he been on a foirum and people said bad fings bout him and i said hey dont worry dont get angry and he said i know but you i get down when people say fings. at the end of the day we all say fings and we cant help it if people say bad fings about us it aint our fault.

Russian Dolls

Top · by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:12 pm

Ps - Dazzer - can you not see the effect your having on so many posters on here ? Maybe your enjoying the friction your posts are causing but others arent and its tedious .

Top · by **LFC2007** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:34 pm

woof woof ! wrote:As far as the west "stealing" the food out of their mouths is concerned, lets look at a few random third world countries

Chad - biggest export - Cotton
Mozambique - biggest export - Prawns
Nigeria- biggest export - Oil and Rubber
Zambia - biggest export - Copper

Some f'ucking diet that would be, prawns wrapped in cotton fried in petroleum and served up in a copper bowl.

Not forgetting the rubber spoons

Top · by **Effes** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:43 pm

Effes wrote:
Attention seeking sh.it ? I am making points abotu something someone else brought up don't be so narrow minded.Only thing you have shown me is you with you mates is how good you are at singling out 1 person with a view other then your own or collective and bully them/discredit them.Any normal person reading this out side of these forums would think what a bunch of nasty little you are.As my wife has said 5-6 times looking over my shoulder.She asks me to stop posting on here as I am wasting my time I tell her thier are a good amount of posters who are not nasty little .But more the days go on less I see of that.Over all I am not getting a good vibe that any of you are nice people to be so systematic with you personal digs.I am glad not all liverpools fans are like you or it would make it very hard to keep loving a football club that has so many nasty people belonging to it.If you don't like me don't comment on my posts and if you don't agree with what I say just tell me why but really putting your a fecking idiot just because you view point is not same or saying I am attention seeking is just and you deep down know it is.Just a bunch of bloody sheep all jumping on bandwagon to have a go at someone prob because you lifes suck well sorry I guess thats my fault as well.

Dont worry bout it Dazzer mate i fink your alrite reelly just dont worry about people having a go at you at the end of the day we all come on here just to air our views it aint up to ovver people to say we talk or wotever. I was talking to my mate the other day and he said he been on a foirum and people said bad fings bout him and i said hey dont worry dont get angry and he said i know but you i get down when people say fings. at the end of the day we all say fings and we cant help it if people say bad fings about us it aint our fault.

Russian Dolls

Nice editing by that impartial moderator.

Nice one

Top · by **woof woof !** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:01 pm

Effes wrote:Russian Dolls

Nice editing by that impartial moderator.

Nice one

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Nice to know it's appreciated.

For the record

Don't know about you lot but I'm, sick and tired of the russian doll multiple quotes that infest the forum.

Sure , when you're responding to a post you may want to include some reference to posts that have gone before BUT do you really need to include 4-5-6-7 previous references ?

It's usually down to a couple of members having a ding dong, throwing sh'ite backwards and forwards or just a member who can't be ar'sed to edit quotes and doesn't give a sh'it about the spam their shovelling on with their responses.

I'll have no hesitation in editing such posts and in the more extreme circumstances I'll delete a post completely.

Top · by **Effes** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:52 pm

I only quoted one post tho - anyhow, move on....

Top · by **Reg** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:08 am

woof woof ! wrote:Chad - biggest export - Cotton

I would like to discuss the above, I have had african farmers, particlularly Chadian farmers come to Brazil at our expense flying them round Brazilian cotton farms talking seeds, fertilizers, farming techniquews, return on captral employed etc.. so PLEASE DO NOT :censored:

lets talk facts.

ok daz, no BS... make your p0int and I hope its Bl**dy good.

Top · by **Dazzer** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:26 am

I gonna stop talking in this topic now as I am clearly wasting my time.

Au revoir.....

Top · by **made in UK** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:17 am

Chad - biggest export - Cotton
Mozambique - biggest export - Prawns
Nigeria- biggest export - Oil and Rubber
Zambia - biggest export - Copper

Some f'ucking diet that would be, prawns wrapped in cotton fried in petroleum and served up in a copper bowl.

Top · by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:47 am

Dazzer wrote:I gonna stop talking in this topic now as I am clearly wasting my time.

Au revoir.....

FAIL!

Top · by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:48 pm

Top · by **Judge** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:57 pm

woof woof ! wrote:

Dazzer, have you EVER spent any time in a "third world" country (South Wales doesn't count btw).[/quote]
i expect taff to snuff you now woof :grinning:

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