Ben Patrick wrote:Bad Bob wrote:To be honest, I'd rate Lucas higher were it not for that glaring miss from 6 yards out. Harsh perhaps to dwell on one moment but those are the chances that you need to at least get on target against the Mancs. Aurelio had a similar golden opportunity with his header but he failed to get it across the keeper. Still he worked VDS. Another slight disappointing moment for Lucas was the pass to Kuyt on the 3 on 2. It was the right pass to make (as opposed to the ball to Torres) but he didn't lead Kuyt enough with the pass and Dirk had to check his run before getting off a tame shot/cross. A better ball there and we've got a glorious scoring opportunity. So, two moments where I thought Lucas could have done better to capitalize on gaps in the Manc defense. As I say, you can't afford too many of those to go begging in this fixture. With all that said, we got there comfortably in the end and he was otherwise excellent. Not MOTM excellent, IMO, but excellent nonetheless.
I thought the pass was ok bob it was kuyts poor first touch for me, his touch should have cushoned the ball slightly forwards, it didnt it almost stopped dead and left the ball stuck under his feet.
I dont think there was much wrong with the pass at all.
The glaring miss ? Is that the one on his left foot that dropped to him in the area ?
Ho should have controlled that shot better without doubt but i wouldnt say it was a glaring miss with it being on his left foot on the half volley and with the area being packed with players infront of him.
Ben Patrick wrote:Bad Bob wrote:To be honest, I'd rate Lucas higher were it not for that glaring miss from 6 yards out. Harsh perhaps to dwell on one moment but those are the chances that you need to at least get on target against the Mancs. Aurelio had a similar golden opportunity with his header but he failed to get it across the keeper. Still he worked VDS. Another slight disappointing moment for Lucas was the pass to Kuyt on the 3 on 2. It was the right pass to make (as opposed to the ball to Torres) but he didn't lead Kuyt enough with the pass and Dirk had to check his run before getting off a tame shot/cross. A better ball there and we've got a glorious scoring opportunity. So, two moments where I thought Lucas could have done better to capitalize on gaps in the Manc defense. As I say, you can't afford too many of those to go begging in this fixture. With all that said, we got there comfortably in the end and he was otherwise excellent. Not MOTM excellent, IMO, but excellent nonetheless.
I thought the pass was ok bob it was kuyts poor first touch for me, his touch should have cushoned the ball slightly forwards, it didnt it almost stopped dead and left the ball stuck under his feet.
I dont think there was much wrong with the pass at all.
The glaring miss ? Is that the one on his left foot that dropped to him in the area ?
Ho should have controlled that shot better without doubt but i wouldnt say it was a glaring miss with it being on his left foot on the half volley and with the area being packed with players infront of him.
Bad Bob wrote:Ben Patrick wrote:Bad Bob wrote:To be honest, I'd rate Lucas higher were it not for that glaring miss from 6 yards out. Harsh perhaps to dwell on one moment but those are the chances that you need to at least get on target against the Mancs. Aurelio had a similar golden opportunity with his header but he failed to get it across the keeper. Still he worked VDS. Another slight disappointing moment for Lucas was the pass to Kuyt on the 3 on 2. It was the right pass to make (as opposed to the ball to Torres) but he didn't lead Kuyt enough with the pass and Dirk had to check his run before getting off a tame shot/cross. A better ball there and we've got a glorious scoring opportunity. So, two moments where I thought Lucas could have done better to capitalize on gaps in the Manc defense. As I say, you can't afford too many of those to go begging in this fixture. With all that said, we got there comfortably in the end and he was otherwise excellent. Not MOTM excellent, IMO, but excellent nonetheless.
I thought the pass was ok bob it was kuyts poor first touch for me, his touch should have cushoned the ball slightly forwards, it didnt it almost stopped dead and left the ball stuck under his feet.
I dont think there was much wrong with the pass at all.
The glaring miss ? Is that the one on his left foot that dropped to him in the area ?
Ho should have controlled that shot better without doubt but i wouldnt say it was a glaring miss with it being on his left foot on the half volley and with the area being packed with players infront of him.
It's all about opinions, mate. I thought Lucas could have done a little better with both but, as I say, he was otherwise excellent. I still think he did Kuyt no favours with the pass but Kuyt didn't have an especially good touch to compensate either.
The other dimension to this 'analysis' of course is the fact that the game was 0-0 at the time and I was quite tense watching things unfold. When two decent chances crop up at 0-0 and we don't work the keeper with either of them, I get nervous and a little vexed. The wife had to leave the room when Masch decided to go for goal from range rather than playing the ball to Kuyt in space to his right a few moments after!
Rockthekop wrote:Kuyt was very poor on Sunday, kept giving the ball away, touch like an elephant and wasted some good chances where he should have tested the keeper at least.
When he's playing well, he's not bad, when he's playing poorly, he's awful.
Ben Patrick wrote:Bad Bob wrote:To be honest, I'd rate Lucas higher were it not for that glaring miss from 6 yards out. Harsh perhaps to dwell on one moment but those are the chances that you need to at least get on target against the Mancs. Aurelio had a similar golden opportunity with his header but he failed to get it across the keeper. Still he worked VDS. Another slight disappointing moment for Lucas was the pass to Kuyt on the 3 on 2. It was the right pass to make (as opposed to the ball to Torres) but he didn't lead Kuyt enough with the pass and Dirk had to check his run before getting off a tame shot/cross. A better ball there and we've got a glorious scoring opportunity. So, two moments where I thought Lucas could have done better to capitalize on gaps in the Manc defense. As I say, you can't afford too many of those to go begging in this fixture. With all that said, we got there comfortably in the end and he was otherwise excellent. Not MOTM excellent, IMO, but excellent nonetheless.
I thought the pass was ok bob it was kuyts poor first touch for me, his touch should have cushoned the ball slightly forwards, it didnt it almost stopped dead and left the ball stuck under his feet.
I dont think there was much wrong with the pass at all.
The glaring miss ? Is that the one on his left foot that dropped to him in the area ?
Ho should have controlled that shot better without doubt but i wouldnt say it was a glaring miss with it being on his left foot on the half volley and with the area being packed with players infront of him.
s@int wrote:Ben Patrick wrote:Bad Bob wrote:To be honest, I'd rate Lucas higher were it not for that glaring miss from 6 yards out. Harsh perhaps to dwell on one moment but those are the chances that you need to at least get on target against the Mancs. Aurelio had a similar golden opportunity with his header but he failed to get it across the keeper. Still he worked VDS. Another slight disappointing moment for Lucas was the pass to Kuyt on the 3 on 2. It was the right pass to make (as opposed to the ball to Torres) but he didn't lead Kuyt enough with the pass and Dirk had to check his run before getting off a tame shot/cross. A better ball there and we've got a glorious scoring opportunity. So, two moments where I thought Lucas could have done better to capitalize on gaps in the Manc defense. As I say, you can't afford too many of those to go begging in this fixture. With all that said, we got there comfortably in the end and he was otherwise excellent. Not MOTM excellent, IMO, but excellent nonetheless.
I thought the pass was ok bob it was kuyts poor first touch for me, his touch should have cushoned the ball slightly forwards, it didnt it almost stopped dead and left the ball stuck under his feet.
I dont think there was much wrong with the pass at all.
The glaring miss ? Is that the one on his left foot that dropped to him in the area ?
Ho should have controlled that shot better without doubt but i wouldnt say it was a glaring miss with it being on his left foot on the half volley and with the area being packed with players infront of him.
spot on mate, I think everyone knows if that had been Torres rather than Kuyt who received that ball it would have been a goal.
It wasn't the easiest pass to make either as Kuyt had started to cut inside just a little too early imo.
I don't want to knock Kuyt because his effort and commitment in the game was outstanding and he really personified the work effort of the whole team. However I think he knew he should have done better with the couple of chances he had first half, and that affected his confidence when he was put through by Benny in the second half.
Back to Lucas I thought he did well but not exceptional even with his pass success, while Scholes (the ginger kunt) was for me outstanding even with his mistake and similar pass success. So its not just about how many passes you make but the quality of them.
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