Liverpool FC Forum

by **centarec** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:39 pm

We're gonna end up winning the CL . Have faith lads

by **Rush Job** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:39 pm

Reporter: Is the game agaist utd at the weekend the best game or the worse game you could have next?
Rafa: (very sheepish) We will see on monday.

And fk me he doesnt look confident. "we will see" How can we fail with inspiration like that?
FFS COME ON RAFA THE PLAYERS NEED LIFTING

by **bigmick** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:41 pm

Look, I'm no happy clappy merchant so when I say I think Man Utd are only slightly better than us, I actually mean it or I wouldn't say otherwise.

Our goalie is better, their defence with Ferdinand all over the place, Vidic on the decline and an ageing Neville is better than ours but not by much. Up top I'd put Torres up against any of theirs, while in midfield the ridiculously stubborn refusal to accept that Lucas/Masherano isn't the answer won't hamper us so much here because they will be both be able to sit to counter Rooney/Berbatov. These days now Ronaldo has gone I think our wide midfielders are as good as theirs at least. They aren't a patch on last years team now that Ronaldo and Tevez aren't there, I'm absolutely convinced of that and I think we are their equal (obviously if Gerrard and Torres play). Yes I know they've found ways to win matches, they do that, but we are not very far behind them.

by **Kopite-Jud** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:41 pm

least we are cutting out drawers, ive had enough me

by **Greavesie** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:44 pm

end of the day, our financial restraints mean there's little room for change. The lads need us and Rafa needs us. More than ever do we have to get behind the lads and be ready for an absolute nut cracker of a game at the weekend. No burying your head in the sand, stand up and be counted for LFC. I'm fecking proud of this club and everything it stands for. Lets show the w@nkers who the hell we are at the weekend. :censored:

the doubters, lets prove em wrong

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:44 pm

tonyeh wrote:Utterly shambolic game. Like the "team" itself, if I'm honest. Even the goal was shambolic.

There are so many problems at the moment, that I don't know where to begin.

Liverpool never looked like scoring, even though they managed to get a goal. I lost count of how many times I counted 6 or 7 white shirts with N'Gog left completely on his own. Even when Liverpool went 1 up, they never looked like they were going to win it and when Lyon got the second, there wasn't a murmur of surprise from me.

The team Benitez has built (and I use the word team loosely) is basically a mid-table affair that has a great goalie and two shining stars and when those stars are not there (or not shining for that matter), then that team is of the standard of Middlesborough.

This season is going to be a rough one and something's got to give.

I found it truly incredible that Benitez chose to go with 1 striiker up front again (really, WTF is up with that? ), when to me the logical choice would be to play two, probably Babel and Kuyt. Then, at 1-1 and a few minutes to go, he takes the best Liverpool shirt (and only goalscorer) off?

Tactical genius? What a load of bollox.

Utd must be quaking in their boots.

At this stage, if nothing changes, Liverpool will be lucky to finish in the top half of the table this year and the owners willl be getting a loan out to pay him off and give him a plane ticket back to Spain.

Jesus wept. We never looked like scoring, even though we did score and should have scored another before half time? We're you even watching the same match I was. Lyon were hardly great themselves in the final 3rd either. I thought we defended relatively well, and were really unlucky to conceide in the way we did. Reina deserved more luck than that. We looked disjointed at times, hardly surprising considering our confidence, and the winning goal was a real boot in the bollox, because in this game we did at least deserve a draw at the minimum. Caught sleeping at the back, and it was the only real time in the game where we got ripped open.

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:46 pm

Well as the team need to improve, so should we as supporters. Its all a bit glum but lets look at the positives. The first half the crowd were tremendous the atmospher was fantastic and we didnt do too bad. Unlucky again with the Gerrard injury but Aurelio looked positive when he came on and set up the first goal. Im trying to be positive here so we will not mention the second half.

Kelly did brilliantly for us at right back until, cursed as we currently are, he also got injured. So there is talent there, unfortunately though with our current luck its not a fair reflection on their performance in the team considering how stretched we are.

By sunday we will have a much better lineup. Depending on how serious Gerrards injury is we may catch united on the hop and give them a good thrashing. This run we are on has to end sooner or later, would we give up a loss to Lyon or United? I know what I would choose.

Aggers getting back into fitness and reina is showing good form so there is light at the end of the tunnel.

A win against United wont set things right straight away, buts its a bloody good start as we then go on a good run as we slide Aquilani into the team to improve us further.

So there it is, my happy clappy bit

Sunday night we will all be glued to MOTD 2 to saviour the victory.

<DISCLAIMER> note the happy clappy, no negative "but if we lose" tripe !

by **FearnlyFC** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:48 pm

i cannot understand why benitez cannot see the "Team", Surely he watches recordings....Can he not see that Ngog, is better off doing Ballet, and Vorinin should be a Male Model...Both do not have the strenght..or rephrase..the ability to attack a ball, they are better off being Spectators!....should play a 4 1 5 formation.......with 1 in midfield..as we don't have one!!, your right without the Shining Stars..the team is middle of the table at best.......however saw a little bit of spark from Kelly!, though he had a good game, and you can see he is ready to get stuck in and do a "Kuyt", give 120%..For a local LAD..he has the Passion!!!! , Don;t think all the players have the Passion....they just there for a paycheck.....after the game when the players where walking off, you could see which players where gutted ( the passionate ones) , and which where..oh well, we lost again..so What! , Kuyt was clapping to the Fans, but his face said it all...would love to be a fly on the wall when a few Players put transfer requests on the BOSS man's desk come January, Can't understand...a Squad that is 95% of the squad from last season...can't replicate the Awesome Performances from last season...IS it coach..or is it that the team has lost confidence in Benitez because of his outrageous team selections, and formation's......

by **Rush Job** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:53 pm

I new I should have bought that Accrinton Stanley season ticket when I had the chance.

by **kunilson** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:53 pm

im gonna bet on us beating man u. for some reason it is written. u can quote me on that too.

by **agoodmentality** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:55 pm

I really hate saying this,

Jamie Carra is now the weak link in our defense, am I the only one who thinks he looks past it.

The bad thing is, that I don't think its a blip, I might be talking absolute tosh, but he just looks finished.

I'm soo frickin mad right now,,,

I've supported Rafa to the hilt,,,but I haven't felt this bad since Wigan away last season,,:angry:

He's got to go,,,,I hate saying it, but he has,, Does anybody know how much his contract is worth??

Whoever said our squad was as good as the mancs,, your talking pish,,,,
Take out the 2 Best players out of every PL squad and put them up man for man against us,, think about it,
IMHO I'd take chelski's squad, man u, arsenal, man city, aston villa, spurs, bloody hell everton and sunderlands squads even start to look ok.

have I had too much to drink?

by **boodiddy1** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:55 pm

bigmick wrote:Look, I'm no happy clappy merchant so when I say I think Man Utd are only slightly better than us, I actually mean it or I wouldn't say otherwise.

Our goalie is better, their defence with Ferdinand all over the place, Vidic on the decline and an ageing Neville is better than ours but not by much. Up top I'd put Torres up against any of theirs, while in midfield the ridiculously stubborn refusal to accept that Lucas/Masherano isn't the answer won't hamper us so much here because they will be both be able to sit to counter Rooney/Berbatov. These days now Ronaldo has gone I think our wide midfielders are as good as theirs at least. They aren't a patch on last years team now that Ronaldo and Tevez aren't there, I'm absolutely convinced of that and I think we are their equal (obviously if Gerrard and Torres play). Yes I know they've found ways to win matches, they do that, but we are not very far behind them.

Thats the point though. They know how to wwin games. Football isnt plaayed on paper.

Man for man first XI, we aint bad. But, and this is a big but, football is asquad game now, it aint the seventies early eighties were you used 13 to 15 max.

Im still pinching myself from a previous poster saying our squad is probably better than last year. Get a fackin grip. Look at our options. Fact is, too many at this club want to build on last years runners up spot.

SECOND PLACE PEOPLE, chelsea concentrated on CL when they knew title was :censored:

by scholari. We are shambolic, have been all season, discontent in squad is unbelievable, i feel that is one of reasons alonso decided to move on as the unity in the squad was disappearing.

Babel, Voronin, mascha unhappy. Lucas has no guidance so is fooked. Reina losing faith in defence and coming for things he shouldn't. We have not beat any team this year that has been any good.

Ferdinand all over the place, vidic in decline. Well, carra all over the place and in decline, skrtel lost. Insua slow (looks likes he ageing) agger injury prone. A very sound back line we have. I reckon o'shea, evra, j evans would all get into our team on current form. Only Johnson would get in uniteds defence.

by **tonyeh** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:55 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
tonyeh wrote:Utterly shambolic game. Like the "team" itself, if I'm honest. Even the goal was shambolic.

There are so many problems at the moment, that I don't know where to begin.

Liverpool never looked like scoring, even though they managed to get a goal. I lost count of how many times I counted 6 or 7 white shirts with N'Gog left completely on his own. Even when Liverpool went 1 up, they never looked like they were going to win it and when Lyon got the second, there wasn't a murmur of surprise from me.

The team Benitez has built (and I use the word team loosely) is basically a mid-table affair that has a great goalie and two shining stars and when those stars are not there (or not shining for that matter), then that team is of the standard of Middlesborough.

This season is going to be a rough one and something's got to give.

I found it truly incredible that Benitez chose to go with 1 striiker up front again (really, WTF is up with that? ), when to me the logical choice would be to play two, probably Babel and Kuyt. Then, at 1-1 and a few minutes to go, he takes the best Liverpool shirt (and only goalscorer) off?

Tactical genius? What a load of bollox.

Utd must be quaking in their boots.

At this stage, if nothing changes, Liverpool will be lucky to finish in the top half of the table this year and the owners willl be getting a loan out to pay him off and give him a plane ticket back to Spain.

Jesus wept. We never looked like scoring, even though we did score and should have scored another before half time? We're you even watching the same match I was. Lyon were hardly great themselves in the final 3rd either. I thought we defended relatively well, and were really unlucky to conceide in the way we did. Reina deserved more luck than that. We looked disjointed at times, hardly surprising considering our confidence, and the winning goal was a real boot in the bollox, because in this game we did at least deserve a draw at the minimum. Caught sleeping at the back, and it was the only real time in the game where we got ripped open.

You can "Jesus wept" all over the place, but NO, we didn't look like scoring. Liverpool had 2 chances ( TWO ) chances in 30 minutes of play in the first half.

The way the team was set up, you damn well knew that goals WEREN'T going to come from a pass from midfield to the striker, that's for sure. So, fuck knows where they were coming from.

NO, WE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE SCORING

In the end we only got a goal because their defence was put off by Kelly's miss and the ball landing at Bennys feet.

In all, we had about 8 minutes of good play in the last part of the first half...that was it.

We defended shit, Insua was laughable. Everyone was ball watching for Lyon's first.

The whole fuckin team (bar Riena, Mascherano and Benny) were terrible.

Were you REALLY that surprised when Liverpool lost?

Really?

by **Kopite-Jud** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:56 pm

To be fair to Rafa he is doing exactly what we did last season but the team are a shambles at the minuite..... will Aquilani make a difference? did Alonso have that much of an impact? remember we beat united without Gerrard and Torres at Anfield last season!

by **tonyeh** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:59 pm

We beat Utd last season at Anfield ONLY because Wes Brown gave us an OG...that's it.

FFS.

Liverpool FC Forum

LIVERPOOL VS LYON - 19:45 tue 20th october cl group phase

Who is online