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Postby only me » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:01 pm

I think it's about time Rafa tries something else with Kuyt ,either change his position on the field or bench him for a while.

He is without no doubt our hardest worker ,even more the Stevie and Carra ,he justs leave it all out on the pitch but that isn't the issue here.

He is not delivering the assets we need him to deliver ,meaning scoring creating and scoring again - now maybe he isn't played correctly by Rafa but as time passes and his scoring sheet remains empty we really should consider or at least try someone or something else.

I really love the guy but bottom line we need more from his position.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:07 pm

only me wrote:I think it's about time Rafa tries something else with Kuyt ,either change his position on the field or bench him for a while.

He is without no doubt our hardest worker ,even more the Stevie and Carra ,he justs leave it all out on the pitch but that isn't the issue here.

He is not delivering the assets we need him to deliver ,meaning scoring creating and scoring again - now maybe he isn't played correctly by Rafa but as time passes and his scoring sheet remains empty we really should consider or at least try someone or something else.

I really love the guy but bottom line we need more from his position.

he has 4 goals so far this season - which is a good return so far in this season . last two games he hasnt been that great but then again no one has .
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Postby only me » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:19 pm

GYBS wrote:
only me wrote:I think it's about time Rafa tries something else with Kuyt ,either change his position on the field or bench him for a while.

He is without no doubt our hardest worker ,even more the Stevie and Carra ,he justs leave it all out on the pitch but that isn't the issue here.

He is not delivering the assets we need him to deliver ,meaning scoring creating and scoring again - now maybe he isn't played correctly by Rafa but as time passes and his scoring sheet remains empty we really should consider or at least try someone or something else.

I really love the guy but bottom line we need more from his position.

he has 4 goals so far this season - which is a good return so far in this season . last two games he hasnt been that great but then again no one has .

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I'm looking at the general picture here ,not just the last games ,question is can we do better? can Kuyt do better ? Is it worth changing something or we feel this position is well covered and thats that.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:20 pm

general picture ? what general picture ? he produces the goods and has done for the last 14 months - what more is there to look at ?
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Postby bigmick » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:37 pm

GYBS wrote:general picture ? what general picture ? he produces the goods and has done for the last 14 months - what more is there to look at ?

I think that's the blanket well and truly over that discussion anyway. All's we need to do now is sit on the edges until you can only hear faint muffles, then we can move onto the next bit of sensible football chat.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:45 pm

What is this blanket bollo.cks you keep going on about - is this the new mick bone that you have got hold off
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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:49 pm

bigmick wrote:
GYBS wrote:general picture ? what general picture ? he produces the goods and has done for the last 14 months - what more is there to look at ?

I think that's the blanket well and truly over that discussion anyway. All's we need to do now is sit on the edges until you can only hear faint muffles, then we can move onto the next bit of sensible football chat.

Kuyt wears a red shirt and thats good enough for GYBS.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:52 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
bigmick wrote:
GYBS wrote:general picture ? what general picture ? he produces the goods and has done for the last 14 months - what more is there to look at ?

I think that's the blanket well and truly over that discussion anyway. All's we need to do now is sit on the edges until you can only hear faint muffles, then we can move onto the next bit of sensible football chat.

Kuyt wears a red shirt and thats good enough for GYBS.
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where is the problem with that ?!

Im more than happy to realise that Kuyt over the last 12 months has been one of our most important players in the team.
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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:02 pm

GYBS wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
bigmick wrote:
GYBS wrote:general picture ? what general picture ? he produces the goods and has done for the last 14 months - what more is there to look at ?

I think that's the blanket well and truly over that discussion anyway. All's we need to do now is sit on the edges until you can only hear faint muffles, then we can move onto the next bit of sensible football chat.

Kuyt wears a red shirt and thats good enough for GYBS.
He sees the good in every player
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where is the problem with that ?!

Im more than happy to realise that Kuyt over the last 12 months has been one of our most important players in the team.

Would you accept that he has very limited technical ability and not very much creativity?
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Postby GYBS » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:04 pm

nope i wouldnt cause i have seen him create a fair amount of chances - yes he isnt up there with other players who have world class ability or creativity but.  i wouldnt call him very limited or not much creativity neither
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Postby bigmick » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:06 pm

Blanket Thrower . Someone who seeks to drown out sensible discussion with either repetitive nonsense which derails the subject in hand, or pours scorn on any dissenting voices by quetioning their loyalty, knowledge, "real fanness", where they live, what they do for a living, or just by generally abusing them.

In the former example, a lesser spotted blanket thrower will answer a question about whether or not Steven Gerrard would have been better employed in central midfield given our injuries with "but didn't him and Torres score lots of goals together up front", or "well in some cases perhaps but in others in wasn't necessary" or "but how do you know Gerrard hasn't expressly told Rafa that he doesn't want to play there" or "but why would Masherano stay with us if he's going to be second fiddle" or "but are you saying Insua isn't a good left back" or "but we beat Man Utd with this same team 18 months ago" etc etc etc. Essentially the discussion is forcibly sidetracked into a holding bay of nonsense.

It is much debated whether the lesser spotted (or indeed greater spotted) blanket thrower does this on purpose, or whether it is unintentional.

The greater spotted blanket thrower can't match it's cousin for tenacity, and what's more is a much more aggressive and confrontational animal. He'll question your knowledge, ask to see your coaching badges, think what you do for a living is relevent, openly accuse you of talking sh!t if you dare to suggest mass rotation isn't necessarily the way to go, or that a draw at Home with Hull isn't the best result, or that pre season matches can be quite useful, or that going for a win might be an idea, or suggest that all the draws might eventually be costly. His rallying cry is the "I don't fecking believe this place" and he is most commonly found after a sh!t performance, abusing all and sundry who come on here to vent some frustration. Strangely, you very often find them after wins as well, asking "so where are all the fecking moaners and groaners now, c...s".

If you want to avoid a greater spotted blanket thrower, the best time to come on the boards is after they have been proven to be talking b0ll0cks. This could be on rotation, whether the draws are important and will cost us the title, whether pre season matters, whether Steven Gerrard ought to be currently in central midfield etc etc. As has alreasy been stated, they don't match their lesser spotted cousin for stickability. The lesser spotted blanket thrower will continue to chirp away quite happily even when proven totally wrong, whereas his more aggressive relative will disappear for a while and never mention the conflict again once he realises that once again he's on the  wrong side of the ledger.


They are an interesting breed though, and their time on the forum is mostly spent trying to drown out discussion by either abuse or nonsense.
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Postby Effes » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:06 pm

GYBS you're on form tonight mate - have you been knocking back those blue smarties?
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Postby Effes » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:09 pm

bigmick wrote: Blanket Thrower . Someone who seeks to drown out sensible discussion with either repetitive nonsense which derails the subject in hand, or pours scorn on any dissenting voices by quetioning their loyalty, knowledge, "real fanness", where they live, what they do for a living, or just by generally abusing them.

In the former example, a lesser spotted blanket thrower will answer a question about whether or not Steven Gerrard would have been better employed in central midfield given our injuries with "but didn't him and Torres score lots of goals together up front", or "well in some cases perhaps but in others in wasn't necessary" or "but how do you know Gerrard hasn't expressly told Rafa that he doesn't want to play there" or "but why would Masherano stay with us if he's going to be second fiddle" or "but are you saying Insua isn't a good left back" or "but we beat Man Utd with this same team 18 months ago" etc etc etc. Essentially the discussion is forcibly sidetracked into a holding bay of nonsense.

It is much debated whether the lesser spotted (or indeed greater spotted) blanket thrower does this on purpose, or whether it is unintentional.

The greater spotted blanket thrower can't match it's cousin for tenacity, and what's more is a much more aggressive and confrontational animal. He'll question your knowledge, ask to see your coaching badges, think what you do for a living is relevent, openly accuse you of talking sh!t if you dare to suggest mass rotation isn't necessarily the way to go, or that a draw at Home with Hull isn't the best result, or that pre season matches can be quite useful, or that going for a win might be an idea, or suggest that all the draws might eventually be costly. His rallying cry is the "I don't fecking believe this place" and he is most commonly found after a sh!t performance, abusing all and sundry who come on here to vent some frustration. Strangely, you very often find them after wins as well, asking "so where are all the fecking moaners and groaners now, c...s".

If you want to avoid a greater spotted blanket thrower, the best time to come on the boards is after they have been proven to be talking b0ll0cks. This could be on rotation, whether the draws are important and will cost us the title, whether pre season matters, whether Steven Gerrard ought to be currently in central midfield etc etc. As has alreasy been stated, they don't match their lesser spotted cousin for stickability. The lesser spotted blanket thrower will continue to chirp away quite happily even when proven totally wrong, whereas his more aggressive relative will disappear for a while and never mention the conflict again once he realises that once again he's on the  wrong side of the ledger.


They are an interesting breed though, and their time on the forum is mostly spent trying to drown out discussion by either abuse or nonsense.

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Postby GYBS » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:11 pm

quetioning their loyalty, knowledge, "real fanness", where they live, what they do for a living, or just by generally abusing them.

please do point out where i have stated as such .

Drown out by abuse ?! im sorry but please show me where i have abused anyone ?

The only person insulting anyone is you here by typcasting people into your little pigeon holes when they give an opinion you dont like or they respond in a way that doesnt suit the rules of Bigmick and his massive self importance when it comes to all subjects regarding Liverpool Football Club its players and manager.

Im giving my opinion on subjects in the thread - you may not agree with that opinion or you may agree but dont be going around calling it nonsense - you dont see me doing as such do you .

and effes are you obsessed with me or something ?
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