Sabre wrote:redbeergoggles wrote:LFC2007 wrote:I'd also just add that I've never advocated that the protest should have been prevented because of the nature of their views. They were within their rights to demonstrate - and that's a right I will defend - but by the same token I'm perfectly within my rights to express my own views to the contrary, which I have done.
This was never in question it was the use of the derogatory and inflammatory words that you used to describe the nature of the protesters ,this is what I found most offensive ,even more offensive than when you described myself as a c*** ,something I might add I had the tact not to reciprocate ..
Í'm going to talk about feelings, and with the aim of trying you two stop fighting.
I think I know why LFC calls them cúnts because I suspect I might have similar feelings about it. I consider the *leaders* of those protests cúnts because they use the noble feelings and concerns of decent people like you to fulfill a political agenda that existed *well before* the muslim extremists became a problem in your country.
Noble is the feeling of people wanting their daughters safe, their religion not lost, their soldiers respected, the terrorism combatted. That's noble and nice. But when some of those political groups lie deliberately and enter details like a mosque being inaugurated in 9/11 on purpose, they seek to gain your noble feelings for their agenda. That rises a feeling of hate in me towards those political leaders.
Because I come from a place in which in 1936, people with agenda used the noble feelings of the people and at the end we had brothers fighting against brothers in a civil war. And the scars of it still hurt in 2009. Let God doesn't allow you know in your country the shame of fighting between british people. A Civil war is something that puts a stamp in the feelings of the people, not only of the people who suffered directly, also in the future generations.
Using lies to attract the noble concerns of decent people like you is something that generates a feeling of disdain and indignation in me. So if I see fascists (because fascists use the same arguments universally) gaining noble and nice people for their cause with lies, hate rises in my heart and I call them cúnts too.
That's how I feel and I suspect LFC might have similar (with another background) feelings.
Fascist cráp always made sense when was spouted in their time. And I just hope fascism doesn't make his way again in Europe and we learned the lesson once and forever.
I don't think LFC called you a cúnt, but the ones that designed the protests. He tried to explain the unaccuracies and lies that were used by them in order to show why they are cúnts. I don't think he meant that everyone that has a concern to keep the values of your country or went to those protests were cúnts.
Thanks for taking the time to post your reply mate ,I will certainly take on board your reservations concerning what is now becoming a long drawn out saga , which as of yet shows no signs of quelling, in respect to either side ,and once again I thank you for your thoughtful and heartfelt post and I genuinely mean that.
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