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by **stmichael** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:32 pm

HacksawJimDuggin wrote:I wish we'd kept hold of Sami.

Yeah but at the end of the day he wanted to go because we couldn't guarantee him anything other than a bit part this season. We do badly miss his height in defence though.

Also, Hyypia's lack of pace wasn't critical, and he stepped up to make interceptions rather than last ditch tackles. Unfortunately the same can't be said for Carragher. While not quick, Carragher has always had that bit of sharpness for 'last ditch lunges', which is more physically based than Hyypia's style ever was.

by **akumaface** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:36 pm

We gave up so many goals from set pieces in which not always the CB's fault. But Carra and Srktel are not a good mix as both played similarly. So, they got mixed up quite a bit in markings. Just hope Rafa realize that we don't have the people for Zonal marking. He should in turn try to Man mark and see how it goes. To the players, man marking is more easy to do as everyone knows who their assignment is. But Zonal marking just confuses our players. This could be easily spotted in games when we were scored against. They all look around and no one has any idea on who fault was it.

by **ElJefe** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:45 pm

akumaface wrote:We gave up so many goals from set pieces in which not always the CB's fault. But Carra and Srktel are not a good mix as both played similarly. So, they got mixed up quite a bit in markings. Just hope Rafa realize that we don't have the people for Zonal marking. He should in turn try to Man mark and see how it goes. To the players, man marking is more easy to do as everyone knows who their assignment is. But Zonal marking just confuses our players. This could be easily spotted in games when we were scored against. They all look around and no one has any idea on who fault was it.

If we'd tried man marking Cole for example, he would have scored anyway because our two best defenders were essentially man marking him anyway.

by **akumaface** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:57 pm

ElJefe wrote:
akumaface wrote:We gave up so many goals from set pieces in which not always the CB's fault. But Carra and Srktel are not a good mix as both played similarly. So, they got mixed up quite a bit in markings. Just hope Rafa realize that we don't have the people for Zonal marking. He should in turn try to Man mark and see how it goes. To the players, man marking is more easy to do as everyone knows who their assignment is. But Zonal marking just confuses our players. This could be easily spotted in games when we were scored against. They all look around and no one has any idea on who fault was it.

If we'd tried man marking Cole for example, he would have scored anyway because our two best defenders were essentially man marking him anyway.

I'm not talking in particular any specific goal as it is impossible not to concede any. Just talking about in general. Even if Cole was to score, it was fine but at least we could have avoided other goals. In man marking, at least someone is on to somebody. In Zonal marking, our player may not be suitable for it as certainly it looks like they don't get it as you can see many of the goals scored against us were uncontested. YOu can't prevent them all but I'm saying man marking is easier for our player to understand and no harm trying it as our players certainly looked confused about Zonal marking. I know Rafa is stubborn but hope he realized that Zonal marking is not the best system for us at the moment.

by **Scottbot** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:49 pm

GYBS wrote:Agger- really hope we get this guy back and as soon as possible - we all know how good he is bringing the ball out from the back and his ability on the ball - on his defending i have only seen one striker murder him physically and that was drogba in the 06/07 cl semi final first leg but Agger learnt from that and came back and had him in his pocket the second leg

Not true mate, It was Carra who dealt with Drogba that night with Riise supporting every time they put the ball in on the diagonal, Agger played spare for pretty much the whole game. It was the best live defensive performance i've ever seen from a Centre-Half. Unfortunately for Carra, that is the form we hope and need him to reclaim for the rest of this season.

by **Rush Job** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:14 am

akumaface wrote:
ElJefe wrote:
akumaface wrote:We gave up so many goals from set pieces in which not always the CB's fault. But Carra and Srktel are not a good mix as both played similarly. So, they got mixed up quite a bit in markings. Just hope Rafa realize that we don't have the people for Zonal marking. He should in turn try to Man mark and see how it goes. To the players, man marking is more easy to do as everyone knows who their assignment is. But Zonal marking just confuses our players. This could be easily spotted in games when we were scored against. They all look around and no one has any idea on who fault was it.

If we'd tried man marking Cole for example, he would have scored anyway because our two best defenders were essentially man marking him anyway.

I'm not talking in particular any specific goal as it is impossible not to concede any. Just talking about in general. Even if Cole was to score, it was fine but at least we could have avoided other goals. In man marking, at least someone is on to somebody. In Zonal marking, our player may not be suitable for it as certainly it looks like they don't get it as you can see many of the goals scored against us were uncontested. YOu can't prevent them all but I'm saying man marking is easier for our player to understand and no harm trying it as our players certainly looked confused about Zonal marking. I know Rafa is stubborn but hope he realized that Zonal marking is not the best system for us at the moment.

If the ball comes anywhere near you, clear it.

Not that hard to understand is it?

by **stmichael** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:08 pm

Thought the Greek had a really good game. Majestic in the air.

by **Owzat** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:00 pm

stmichael wrote:Thought the Greek had a really good game. Majestic in the air.

Mr Majestyk?

by **Nando26** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:13 pm

Majestic in the air :laugh:

you make him sound like some sort of trampoline riverdancer

by **Ben Patrick** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:15 pm

Nando26 wrote:Majestic in the air you make him sound like some sort of trampoline riverdancer

by **RedBlood** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:24 pm

when their all fit we dont have a problem just seems at the moment agger is never fit and skrtel is always injured or coming back from one, plus the massive dip in form of carra and it adds up

i think we should buy a top class centre back asap because like i said the ones we have are all good imo but they seem to be injury prone

cant wait for agger to return and hopefully he can stay fit because hes world class imo, seems people have forgotten just how good he is

by **RedBlood** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:25 pm

Nando26 wrote:Majestic in the air you make him sound like some sort of trampoline riverdancer

he is very good in the air though i mentioned that to you yesterday

by **Nando26** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:28 pm

RedBlood wrote:
Nando26 wrote:Majestic in the air you make him sound like some sort of trampoline riverdancer

he is very good in the air though i mentioned that to you yesterday

yeh & i mentioned to you that i already knew that & infact you seem to have a habit of mentioning things i already know all the time

so stop it

by **RedBlood** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:33 pm

like your gay? you already know that then?

by **GYBS** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:24 pm

are you two brothers or something

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